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Options October 16, 2017: Reanimating old tech: Andrew Beccone, founder of the Reanimation Library

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Tonight, a conversation with Andrew Beccone, founder of the Reanimation Library in Red Hook, Brooklyn. Images from the library below:

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  Reanimation Library founder Andrew Beccone speaks with Mark. The theme for this episode is "reanimating old tech." What old tech do you still use?
Tomaš Dvořák  Game Boy Tune   Options Machinarium Soundtrack    0:08:16 (MP3 | )
Mark Hurst   Intro   Options  
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Samoan Hot Shot Crew 61  Mountain Song   Options     0:15:02 (MP3 | )
Kraftwerk  Tanzmusik   Options Ralf und Florian    0:16:47 (MP3 | )
Mark Hurst   The Techtonic Interview with Andrew Beccone, founder, The Reanimation Library   Options  
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Kosmischer Laufer   Morgenrote   Options The Secret Cosmic Music of the East German Olympic Program 1972-83, Vol. 2    0:34:10 (MP3 | )
Mark Hurst   Uncanny Valley   Options  
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Mark Hurst   Mark takes calls   Options  
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Shooby Taylor  The Theme   Options Shooby Taylor, the Human Horn 
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Listener comments!

  Mon. 10/16/17 6:03pm melinda:

Hello techsters
Avatar Mon. 10/16/17 6:03pm geezerette:

Hello, Mark and all!
Avatar Mon. 10/16/17 6:04pm Switchblade Batman:

film cameras, various video game consoles
Avatar Mon. 10/16/17 6:05pm Switchblade Batman:

A radio, being that there's digital streaming now
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Mon. 10/16/17 6:05pm Threemoons:

I can't call as I am in the office, but...my "old" technologies that I still use...let me think...I have a bunch of mix tapes from the 80's that I will never give up -- ditto for my tape player. Also, on a more primal front, I love my cast-iron pan and cooking over good ol' fashioned gas flame....
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Mon. 10/16/17 6:05pm steve:

i figured you were talking about that dumb ass Bodega thing... wow that's already several news cycles ago
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Mon. 10/16/17 6:06pm Bas NL:

Hey, i got that book! Physics of Metals!
Avatar Mon. 10/16/17 6:06pm geezerette:

Boy, was THAT dumb! Zuckerberg.
Avatar Mon. 10/16/17 6:07pm glenn:

gas flame is great, but those induction cooktops are pretty good as well.
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Mon. 10/16/17 6:07pm chris:

all versions of zuck are cartoon versions
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 10/16/17 6:07pm listener james from westwood:

Oh, jeez, that Zuck stunt was the facepalm di tutti facepalm.
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Mon. 10/16/17 6:07pm Threemoons:

I also do wet-film photography with expired films as a hobby, and use a modern flatbed scanner to scan the results...
Avatar Mon. 10/16/17 6:07pm geezerette:

No, that was the real Zuckerberg,
Avatar    Mon. 10/16/17 6:07pm RomanDogBird:

i dunno i think it looks prtty kewl ac2lly
Avatar Mon. 10/16/17 6:08pm glenn:

not to mention the awesomeness that is the charcoal barbecue.
Avatar    Mon. 10/16/17 6:08pm RomanDogBird:

ain't techmology grand
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Mon. 10/16/17 6:08pm Threemoons:

Glenn--Gas flame though is the only way to really crank it up, especially if you want to sear a steak or something....ditto for charcoal BBQ, which alas I only have limited access to...
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Mon. 10/16/17 6:09pm chris:

i have a wind vane on the roof
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 10/16/17 6:10pm listener james from westwood:

If VR granted any sort of empathy boost, women would be enduring a lot less harassment when using VR in shared environments than they have.
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Mon. 10/16/17 6:10pm Michael 98145:

i have a Selectric squirreled away
Avatar    Mon. 10/16/17 6:10pm RomanDogBird:

that was rather kevin meaney-esque, mark
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 10/16/17 6:11pm listener james from westwood:

Zuck should get back to going to state fairs and staring meaningfully at things as he did for his totally-not-a-presidential-cred-building-tour from earlier this year.
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Mon. 10/16/17 6:11pm Threemoons:

Would you consider home food fermentation (ie saurkraut/kimchee making the old fashioned way, etc) as a use of old tech?
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 10/16/17 6:12pm listener james from westwood:

@Michael: Smith-Corona portable manual tucked discreetly in my living room!
  Mon. 10/16/17 6:12pm Dean:

The pencil. The sonnet. Print reviews of classical music recordings.

That is, if by old tech you mean "things you don't have to plug in."
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Mon. 10/16/17 6:12pm dale:

give someone a transistor radio and tuneable loop and they can get all the info they ever would need.
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 10/16/17 6:13pm northguineahills:

I saw that video, it's amazing!
  Mon. 10/16/17 6:13pm melinda:

@threemoons I like to ferment. I also still play cassette tapes.
Avatar Mon. 10/16/17 6:14pm geezerette:

VR is another way to corral you into the fb world and keep you there. So many Trojan Horses; and it's all so seductive. I'm as hooked as anyone, I mean I'm here, y' know?
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 10/16/17 6:14pm Mark Hurst:

Hi everyone! Here's the video we're listening to, of the Samoan firefighters. www.youtube.com...
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Mon. 10/16/17 6:15pm Michael 98145:

virtual *wave*, gz'ette
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Mon. 10/16/17 6:15pm Threemoons:

@Melinda you go girl! :D
Avatar Mon. 10/16/17 6:15pm geezerette:

I'm a painter. Not much is lower tech than that.
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Mon. 10/16/17 6:16pm Jeff:

I got it from Kathryn!
Avatar Mon. 10/16/17 6:16pm geezerette:

Virtual wave back, Michael. :)
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 10/16/17 6:17pm kimzilla:

Umm, Is his avatar waist deep in water?
  Mon. 10/16/17 6:17pm Dean:

That bottom photo of shelved library books demonstrates an old, still widely used technology: Library of Congress Classification. The titles are classed in T, Technology, including subclass TA (Engineering (General). Civil engineering) and subclass TF (Railroad engineering and operation).
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Mon. 10/16/17 6:18pm Jeff:

Also apropos of all that VR nonsense - I just want to remind everyone that nobody should ever buy anything made by Oculus Rift or its douchebag founder.

www.theguardian.com...
Avatar Mon. 10/16/17 6:18pm geezerette:

No books are outdated if they spur your imagination.
Avatar Mon. 10/16/17 6:18pm glenn:

i love old hand tools. there's nothing more satisfying than making paper thin shavings with a beautiful old plane.
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Mon. 10/16/17 6:19pm dale:

i have some books from the teens on how to build your own aeroplane, hypnotism, and how to become a morse code operator.
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Mon. 10/16/17 6:19pm Bas NL:

You said it geezerette..
Avatar Mon. 10/16/17 6:21pm glenn:

does anybody still use morse code anymore?
  Mon. 10/16/17 6:21pm scuzfink1:

In case you were wondering what song the Samoan firefighters were singing...

https://youtu.be/KM2kbogwgBM
Avatar Mon. 10/16/17 6:22pm geezerette:

Vance Packard's " The Hidden Persuaders " is still relevant.

Thanks, Bas. :).
Avatar Mon. 10/16/17 6:22pm glenn:

besides the cosmodemonic telegraph company, that is.
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Mon. 10/16/17 6:23pm Ken From Hyde Park:

So if North Korea detonated an EMP like they threatened, we might not be screwed, after all?
Avatar    Mon. 10/16/17 6:24pm Fox:

Glenn: I know SOS in morse code purely from the old scrubby sponge commercials.
Avatar Mon. 10/16/17 6:24pm geezerette:

Glenn, yes han tools!
Melinda, yes, fermentation!
Everyone here;yes,yes,yes!
Avatar Mon. 10/16/17 6:25pm geezerette:

...hand tools...
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Mon. 10/16/17 6:25pm dale:

this all sounds amazing and enlightening - to a millenial. to anyone over 50 it's just how we grew up and many of us never left that world.
  Mon. 10/16/17 6:25pm Dean:

At this point, geezerette, I think you're obligated to cite the closing passage of Joyce's "Ulysses."
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 10/16/17 6:25pm listener james from westwood:

I've looked through that million random digits book! Mostly in puzzlement. Spotted it at my college library.
Avatar Mon. 10/16/17 6:25pm glenn:

i'm assuming n.y.c. has tool libraries.
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 10/16/17 6:26pm listener james from westwood:

The audiobook version of that digit text is basically a numbers station.
  Mon. 10/16/17 6:27pm Dean:

Was just skimming a book on campus here compiling results of formulae given specified values, table after table.
Avatar Mon. 10/16/17 6:27pm geezerette:

Dean, I'd have to re-read it.
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Mon. 10/16/17 6:28pm Jeff:

@dale: My dad continued to call flying machines aeroplanes. I think he did adopt the newfangled "airport" in lieu of aerodrome.
Avatar Mon. 10/16/17 6:29pm geezerette:

Got it here, so will read last page this evening. Thanks!
  Mon. 10/16/17 6:30pm Dean:

It's an...affirmative...closing.
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Mon. 10/16/17 6:31pm Michael 98145:

once, in my dim past, i recall a station going off the air, but before they totally shut down all that was broadcast was a voice counting up numbers
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Mon. 10/16/17 6:32pm Michael 98145:

it was a very sorrowful sound
  Mon. 10/16/17 6:32pm Dean:

The LC classification, like Dewey Decimal Classification, was designed to facilitate "looking around."
Avatar Mon. 10/16/17 6:34pm geezerette:

Nothing can replace the pleasure and value of browsing, wandering; in a book store, library, museum, national park, or a city,(on and on).
Avatar Mon. 10/16/17 6:36pm glenn:

browsing goes against the protestant work ethic, though.
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 10/16/17 6:37pm listener james from westwood:

Hear, hear, geezerette!
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Mon. 10/16/17 6:38pm Jeff:

I've really enjoyed reading some of the original-version early 20th century Tom Swift ("Tom Swift and his Motorcycle", "Tom Swift and his War Tank" et al) and Hardy Boys books.

The casual racism in them is initially shocking but eye-opening, and in general they give a really interesting feel for the time in which and for which they were written.
Avatar Mon. 10/16/17 6:38pm geezerette:

Following your own imagination is almost the definition of being human.
Avatar Mon. 10/16/17 6:39pm geezerette:

Hey, Listener James! :)
Avatar Mon. 10/16/17 6:40pm geezerette:

Jeff, exactly!
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Mon. 10/16/17 6:40pm dale:

i have a couple three tom swifts. tom and his electric rifle and i think tom and his airship. that boy must have been well off.
Avatar Mon. 10/16/17 6:41pm geezerette:

ha!
  Mon. 10/16/17 6:41pm herb.nyc:

As photography is mentioned, prince st betw Broadway / Crosby, in soho, is where Polaroid people hang and display their pix. They'll even shoot you (not ouch).
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Mon. 10/16/17 6:43pm Jeff:

Li'l bit of packet sniffing and Bob's your uncle!
Avatar Mon. 10/16/17 6:43pm glenn:

the first franklin w. dixon was leslie mcfarlane. his son brian came up with peter puck, to explain hockey to americans.
Avatar Mon. 10/16/17 6:43pm geezerette:

@Glenn@6:36: Puritan curse. Resist! :D
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Mon. 10/16/17 6:44pm chris:

btw, this just in. all wifi can be hacked - www.theguardian.com...
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Mon. 10/16/17 6:45pm Threemoons:

@Herb yeah I know the gallery I think...
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Mon. 10/16/17 6:46pm Jeff:

@chris: Yep, here's the paper on it

www.krackattacks.com
Avatar Mon. 10/16/17 6:46pm glenn:

oh he was also carolyn keene, for the nancy drew lovers.
www.cbc.ca...
Avatar    Mon. 10/16/17 6:47pm Fox:

My local library in Jersey City loans out neckties, so people can go on job interviews.
Avatar Mon. 10/16/17 6:48pm geezerette:

Fox, that's wonderful!
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Mon. 10/16/17 6:49pm Jeff:

Google News is maintaining a good live cluster of recent posts about the WPA2 vulnerability.

news.google.com...
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Mon. 10/16/17 6:49pm Bas NL:

I've repaired/restored some 700 vintage synthesizers.. while outdated they are still in high demand!
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 10/16/17 6:49pm listener james from westwood:

@Fox, that is one of the kindest services I've ever heard a library offering.
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Mon. 10/16/17 6:49pm Cheri Pi:

Cassettes, 8 tracks, microfilm; 33, 48 & 78 players. VHS. Polaroid film.
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Mon. 10/16/17 6:49pm Michael 98145:

only the dogmatic lack imagination
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 10/16/17 6:50pm listener james from westwood:

Quoting stream-mate Gary Sullivan's opener: Bodegas are our friend.
  Mon. 10/16/17 6:50pm herb.nyc:

Old school photography gave us jokes like "let's go to the darkroom and see what develops", as you wink to the cutie. Kids nowadays ask "what's a darkroom?".
Avatar    Mon. 10/16/17 6:51pm Fox:

Outdated tech that most think is no longer needed: RADIO
  Mon. 10/16/17 6:51pm Eric Hat:

Exactly right. Head ye from whence you came.
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Mon. 10/16/17 6:51pm dale:

carburetors. clothes lines. hammers.
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Mon. 10/16/17 6:51pm Cheri Pi:

*45, hahaha
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Mon. 10/16/17 6:51pm mocherz:

working in animation, we usually lean on our digital cintiqs, but man, I miss drawing on paper, sharpening my pencil, and even paper cuts.
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 10/16/17 6:51pm listener james from westwood:

Kids today are likely to rejoin with the Lydia Deetz line from Beetlejuice: "My life is a dark room. One big dark room." And gods bless'em for replying so.
Avatar    Mon. 10/16/17 6:52pm sweeks:

I still love the sound and feel of an old typewriter
Avatar Mon. 10/16/17 6:52pm geezerette:

Fox, haha! Yes!!!
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Mon. 10/16/17 6:52pm Michael 98145:

i like that: a WFMU-targeted radio. it's doable.
Avatar    Mon. 10/16/17 6:52pm sweeks:

Old pinball machines too!
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Mon. 10/16/17 6:52pm Cheri Pi:

We still have to transfer floppy disks at our library
  Mon. 10/16/17 6:53pm herb.nyc:

One of my favorite Onion headlines; "internet crashes under weight of cat photos". Oops, I lied, they said baby photos.
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Mon. 10/16/17 6:53pm mocherz:

pinball machines!
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Mon. 10/16/17 6:53pm dale:

radio that only get's one fm station:

www.cnet.com...
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 10/16/17 6:53pm northguineahills:

Amen Threemoons, I picked my house b/c it had a gas stove, and gas stoves are rare in this area of FL.

Dig the show, Mark. Trying to get out of work by 7. Of course all obsolete music forms are integral to my existence. Although, I got rid of my 8-tracks when I moved to NYC 17 years ago as my 8-track player was a cabinet, and I had no room. I just moved to FL from Brooklyn, otherwise I'd love to go to Monty Hall.

I have an old polaroid (but finding film is a drag), and I have tons of old musical instruments.

Is it weird that I have my books organized by their Library of Congress number?
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Mon. 10/16/17 6:54pm Jeff:

@herb.nyc -

Changes in standard fluid measures for liquor bottles killed the good ol' joke:

Where there are four Episcopalians there's a fifth!
Avatar    Mon. 10/16/17 6:54pm sweeks:

side note--as a swag-for-life member, where's my little radio doo-hicky icon?
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Mon. 10/16/17 6:54pm melinda:

@ngh yes
  Mon. 10/16/17 6:54pm Dean:

Chemex coffee maker, c.1990.
Avatar Mon. 10/16/17 6:55pm glenn:

not weird so much as inefficient.
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Mon. 10/16/17 6:55pm Michael 98145:

yes!! bring a danged map!!
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Mon. 10/16/17 6:55pm dale:

northguineahills: you don't need a natural gas line. we use a propane barbecue tank and it lasts a loooong time. just have to run the black pipe line outside.
  Mon. 10/16/17 6:55pm Dean:

The once beloved Thomas Maps guides...
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Mon. 10/16/17 6:55pm steve:

i loooove good pens and writing in notebooks... i usually have 2-4 notebooks of personal and projects and work stuff going at once. im incapable of brainstorming with a computer.
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 10/16/17 6:55pm northguineahills:

As a geographer, I never use a GPS, I memorize a map beforehand like a normal human being!
  Mon. 10/16/17 6:56pm Xyrus Blaze:

Lead type.
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Mon. 10/16/17 6:56pm dale:

....and adjust the burners - don't forget that.
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Mon. 10/16/17 6:56pm melinda:

@steve me too. I enjoy writing.
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Mon. 10/16/17 6:56pm melinda:

yes to maps.
Avatar    Mon. 10/16/17 6:57pm Fox:

Comic books! Most people buy trades from bookstores these days, and don't buy floppies at all, and Marvel Comics, given their success with the films and shows, is considering no longer making print individual issue comics at all anymore and making it digital only.
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Mon. 10/16/17 6:57pm Jeff:

I still wear a wristwatch which is permanently stuck with the same user interface... and never washes out in bright sunlight or needs a battery!
Avatar Mon. 10/16/17 6:57pm glenn:

i scrapped my high tech coffee maker for a french press and an italian stovetop espresso maker [for weekend caffe macchiatto].
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Mon. 10/16/17 6:57pm dale:

i keep an old western electric dial phone. cordless phones don't work during power outages.

shooby taylor!
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Mon. 10/16/17 6:57pm Bas NL:

Maps, maps, maps, maps, maps.
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Mon. 10/16/17 6:57pm dale:

maps for the win.
  Mon. 10/16/17 6:58pm Dean:

ISWYDT, @Bas NL.
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Mon. 10/16/17 6:58pm dale:

....and slide rules.
Avatar    Mon. 10/16/17 6:58pm Fox:

Filofax.
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Mon. 10/16/17 6:58pm Michael 98145:

kids wouldn't even know how to dial a phone
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 10/16/17 6:58pm northguineahills:

Thanks Mark!
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Mon. 10/16/17 6:58pm dale:

rolodexes.
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Mon. 10/16/17 6:58pm Michael 98145:

let alone kittens
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Mon. 10/16/17 6:59pm dale:

matches.
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Mon. 10/16/17 6:59pm Bas NL:

Thanks Mark!
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 10/16/17 7:00pm Webhamster Henry:

well I missed this completely! that 's what I get for working!
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 10/16/17 8:28pm Webhamster Henry:

When books went on sale at my college, I decided that if the price was really low, then they stopped being books and started being art material. But one of my favorite things I got there was a three volume set of American Sewerage Practice, 1915. It's loaded with great graphics, fold-out nomograms, and pictures of laborers inside of huge culverts!
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