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Options April 28, 2015: THE FALL: Part 2 of 2 Special w/ live recordings, Interview with MARC RILEY plus BRIX SMITH START

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(Pic of our FMA Director Cheyenne Hohman's hoodie) Second part of a two week special: today's entire three hours is dedicated to the exhuming of some stellar live tapes in Brian's collection from The Fall, mainly soundboard and FM broadcasts from mostly of the '78 to '96 era. As a bonus, three of the band's biggest instrumental anchors of that period, ex-guitarist Marc Riley (1978-83, and now a well-beloved BBC Radio6 DJ), post-Riley guitarist Brix Smith Start (1983-89) and ex-bassist Stephen Hanley (1979-98) speak to WFMU on life inside of and outside of the band; in fact Hanley has recently released a memoir called The Big Midweek. Last week's show featured Hanley and a live set from Spectre Folk performing Fall covers at WFMU, this week we have some chats with Marc Riley (guitarist 1979-83, now a BBC6 Radio DJ) and Brix Smith Start (former Mrs. Mark E. Smith and the band's guitarist from 1983-89 and 1995-6). Mark E. Smith's current lineup of The Fall releases an album, his 31st, on May 25th called Sub-Lingual Tablet.

Artist Track Album Images Approx. start time
The Fall  Middle Mass   Options Unknown venue, NYC, 6/11/81 
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The Fall  Deer Park   Options Unknown venue, NYC, 6/11/81 
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The Fall  Container Drivers   Options Unknown venue, NYC, 6/11/81 
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The Fall  Rowsche Rumble   Options JB's, Dudley UK 9/1/79 
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The Fall  Lie Dream of a Casino Soul   Options Austerbaejarbio, Reykjavik, Iceland 9/12/81 
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The Fall  Cash N Carry   Options San Francisco 1981 
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Marc Riley  WFMU Interview   Options The Fall's guitarist 1979-82, currently an on-air personality at BBC6: http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b00c72y1 
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The Fall  No Xmas For John Quays   Options Keystone, Berkeley 7/10/81 
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The Fall  Totally Wired (A Capella)   Options Unknown, 1981 
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The Fall  Eat Y'self Fitter   Options Austerbaejarbio, Reykjavik, Iceland 5/6/83 
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The Fall  Lay of the Land   Options VPRO / De Doelen, Rotterdam 9/22/84 
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1:39:17 ()
The Fall  L.A.   Options Schlachthof, Bremen, 9/11/85 
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Brix Smith Start  WFMU Interview   Options Brix is the former Mrs. Mark Smith, and guitarist in The Fall from 1983-89, then once again briefly 1995-96. Currently a TV presenter, boutique co-owner, and now fronts Brix & the Extricated 
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The Fall  Guest Informant   Options The Channel, Boston 5/12/88 
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The Fall  Bombast / Cruiser's Creek   Options The Tube, Channel 4 UK 11/8/85 
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The Fall  Hip Priest (into Big New Prinz)   Options Kings Theater, Ediburgh 8/17/88 
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The Fall  I Am Damo Suzuki   Options Markthalle, Hamburg 2/13/87 
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Listener comments!

Avatar Swag For Life Member Tue. 4/28/15 3:02pm Greg from Bloomfield:

IT IS TIME
Avatar Swag For Life Member Tue. 4/28/15 3:02pm Cheri Pi:

YEP
Avatar Swag For Life Member Tue. 4/28/15 3:02pm BadGuyZero:

Hello-uh!
Avatar Tue. 4/28/15 3:02pm d¢ pät:

ahem, woo.
  Tue. 4/28/15 3:03pm orphans on tap water:

Thank you, Brian!
Avatar Swag For Life Member Tue. 4/28/15 3:05pm Caryn:

Ahh, part 2 begins...
Avatar Tue. 4/28/15 3:05pm Cecile:

yes, GAWD
Avatar Tue. 4/28/15 3:06pm Cheyenne:

My hoodie is famous!
Avatar Swag For Life Member Tue. 4/28/15 3:06pm Ikє:

Re: earlier question about Lamin's fill-in: I only caught it via archive, @SeanG, but it was great!

Also, I want that "I Used To Be in The Fall" hoodie.
Avatar Swag For Life Member Tue. 4/28/15 3:07pm Stepchild:

Part the second!!
Avatar Swag For Life Member Tue. 4/28/15 3:07pm Greg from Bloomfield:

Everytime I visit my friends in Deer Park, LI I sing this and nobody knows why...
Avatar Tue. 4/28/15 3:11pm Lopez:

Oy! Oy! Oy! Ready for this installment!
Avatar Tue. 4/28/15 3:11pm northguineahills:

@Ike: It was was awesome hearing Lamin again. Hopefully he'll be back more often.
Avatar    Tue. 4/28/15 3:12pm Sem Chumbo:

OK, Brian!
Avatar Tue. 4/28/15 3:12pm Lopez:

That flyer is great too. I'm curious about whatever happened to the Gay Animals (but not curious enough to google it on my work computer!)
Avatar Tue. 4/28/15 3:13pm glenn:

today in comics. www.casualoptimist.com...
Avatar Tue. 4/28/15 3:13pm Cecile:

when was Lamin around?!??!!
Avatar Swag For Life Member Tue. 4/28/15 3:14pm Caryn:

I always hear "Have you been to the English deer park?" as "Have you been to the English dirt farm?"
Avatar Tue. 4/28/15 3:14pm Chris from DC:

These live sets are gold.
Avatar Swag For Life Member Tue. 4/28/15 3:15pm Ike:

@Cecile, filling in for Rob W. on Sat. Great show.
  Tue. 4/28/15 3:16pm capt.beefheart imitator w/ zits:

NYC 81 sounds amazing! need this! Thank you Brian!
  Tue. 4/28/15 3:16pm Stefan:

Those live trax were from City Gardens, June 12, I think. 2nd time The Fall came to the States.
Avatar Tue. 4/28/15 3:20pm Faye:

im so happy this show is happening
Avatar Tue. 4/28/15 3:21pm Lopez:

Outstanding sounds from '79!
Avatar Swag For Life Member Tue. 4/28/15 3:21pm Greg from Bloomfield:

dodo dodo dananana
Avatar Tue. 4/28/15 3:22pm Brian Turner:

Hmmm Stefan I do have the City Gardens 81 show but I am not sure it's those we heard? I'm thinking Hurrah's or something? Where was the Totally Wired b/w vid shot? Maybe there...
Avatar Tue. 4/28/15 3:23pm Cecile:

Ike, I gotta catch that.
I actually emailed him urging him to apply for a show because he hadn't in a while.
Avatar Tue. 4/28/15 3:23pm Cheyenne:

Anyone know what the word "Rowsche" is referencing here? Or just another nugget from the MES lexicon? Love this one.
Avatar Swag For Life Member Tue. 4/28/15 3:23pm Caryn:

@glenn: nice link. I do wonder how much Halle Berry managed to reduce Storm's significance in the films with her infamous "my career is so on the skids that I'm reduced to working in a frigging comic book movie" rant during filming?
Avatar Swag For Life Member Tue. 4/28/15 3:25pm Caryn:

@Cheyenne: "Rowche Rumble" refered back to Smith's shipping clerk days, when he did business with the Rowche Chemical Company. One day, due to a clerical error, Smith found himself with piles of barbiturates that he attempted to hide in stores across Manchester and in the bottom drawer of his desk at work.
Avatar Tue. 4/28/15 3:25pm glenn:

i thinks it's rouse, no?
  Tue. 4/28/15 3:25pm Chris Mohr:

Well, it just goes to show!
  Tue. 4/28/15 3:25pm capt.beefheart imitator w/ zits:

Rowsche was a pharma company in UK that made some kind of prescription speed
  Tue. 4/28/15 3:25pm Stefan:

Rowche = Roche
Avatar Swag For Life Member Tue. 4/28/15 3:25pm ikє:

@Cecile, great, I hope he does. Although Lamin may travel too much for more than another 1-hour gig.
Avatar Tue. 4/28/15 3:26pm glenn:

huh. i was way off on that one.
Avatar Tue. 4/28/15 3:26pm Cheyenne:

Thanks, WFMU Hive Mind. Y'all never disappoint.
  Tue. 4/28/15 3:27pm Chris Mohr:

@Stefan's right. They're Swiss, actually. And not speed; Valium!
  Tue. 4/28/15 3:27pm Stefan:

chk-chk
Avatar Swag For Life Member Tue. 4/28/15 3:27pm Ĩk∑:

@Caryn@3:25, HAHAHA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA awesome
Avatar Tue. 4/28/15 3:27pm Hugh:

At times, MES controlled the band with the iron fist like James Brown. Sometimes, he just said, "faster, faster."
Avatar Tue. 4/28/15 3:28pm Cecile:

valium. valium.
Avatar Swag For Life Member Tue. 4/28/15 3:28pm Caryn:

Yeah, Roche Chemical Company was changed to Rowsche supposedly for legal reasons.
Avatar Tue. 4/28/15 3:29pm kwhitehead:

Ah, The Fall at their most lumbering... and I mean that in a good way.
  Tue. 4/28/15 3:29pm Chris Mohr:

"C 'n' C/Stop Mithering" sends shivers down my spine. "Grotesque" was the first Fall LP I bought!
  Tue. 4/28/15 3:30pm thefallthings:

@Cheyenne Rowche Chemical Company
See here: http://m.annotatedfall.doomby.com/pages/the-annotated-lyrics/rowche-rumble.html
and for more Fall lyrics explained/guessed: http://m.annotatedfall.doomby.com/
  Tue. 4/28/15 3:31pm thefallthings:

Roche of course
  Tue. 4/28/15 3:33pm Tom L.:

WFMU has been playing lots of The Fall lately. At least it seems that way. I was worried. I logged onto the interweb to make sure that he was OK. I hate to say it, but as we age our heroes age, and...well you know.
Avatar Swag For Life Member Tue. 4/28/15 3:33pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

Fall seven times. Get up eight.
  Tue. 4/28/15 3:35pm dickscumrok:

C n C S-Mithering is the shiznite!
Avatar Tue. 4/28/15 3:36pm glenn:

r.i.p. tracy partridge.
  Tue. 4/28/15 3:37pm Chris Mohr:

@Tom L. Well, that day is coming, but is not yet.
  Tue. 4/28/15 3:42pm Tom L.:

Except for me. I'm a musician. Artists live forever. As Mark E. Smith will live forever. Regardless.
Avatar Swag For Life Member Tue. 4/28/15 3:43pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

- exactly what Iggy said about The Stooges: their tastes were sophisticated (Coltrane, Hendrix) - but their skills were primitive.
  Tue. 4/28/15 3:44pm Chris Mohr:

"Ramshackle" - yes!
Avatar Tue. 4/28/15 3:50pm Cecile:

FBI was the booking agency and IRS was the label, I think.
Avatar Tue. 4/28/15 3:55pm Lopez:

Great interview. Mr. Riley comes across as a really nice guy!
Avatar Tue. 4/28/15 3:57pm glenn:

i still have my jumper clown single. a great piece of music.
Avatar Tue. 4/28/15 4:01pm d¢ pät:

Steve Garvey is in Philly last time I checked. Had a beer at his house once...well half a beer hanyway..
  Tue. 4/28/15 4:04pm slangking:

Chris Mohr, I'm guessing you are the same chap that did the all fall decline and fall show ?, I got of a plane from manchester in '89 (big fall fan at the time) and was amazed to hear your lengthy show on wprb
Avatar Tue. 4/28/15 4:05pm d¢ pät:

Langford organized that Cash tribute album, right?
Avatar Swag For Life Member Tue. 4/28/15 4:07pm Stanley:

Hit the North - a great Fall track
     Tue. 4/28/15 4:12pm Listener Robert:

Is that really a drop-off, or just a shift in venue?
Avatar Tue. 4/28/15 4:13pm d¢ pät:

oh. <--That IS a picture of Courtney with Marc
  Tue. 4/28/15 4:13pm Chris Mohr:

@slangking, yep. Thanks for asking. :)
  Tue. 4/28/15 4:13pm Chris Mohr:

I once interviewed Craig Scanlon for WPRB. I should digitize that...
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Tue. 4/28/15 4:14pm JakeGould:

Great work. And “Hit the North” is great, Stanley. Also, L.A. www.youtube.com...
Avatar Tue. 4/28/15 4:16pm Cecile:

yes!
  Tue. 4/28/15 4:18pm Chris Mohr:

Ah, 1981 - before Craig and Marc discovered tuners! #sogood
Avatar Swag For Life Member Tue. 4/28/15 4:22pm Mike East:

I wanna be in the Fall.
Avatar Tue. 4/28/15 4:22pm d¢ pät:

You gotta hand it to the guys in the Fall for playing those 2 notes for that long.
Avatar Tue. 4/28/15 4:22pm Chris from DC:

Yes!
Avatar Swag For Life Member Tue. 4/28/15 4:22pm Carmichael:

OK, here. Allow me to join in the fray.
  Tue. 4/28/15 4:23pm Ari:

Amazing show once again, cheers from Iceland.
Avatar Tue. 4/28/15 4:24pm d¢ pät:

this is great.
Avatar Swag For Life Member Tue. 4/28/15 4:25pm Greg from Bloomfield:

That made my day.
  Tue. 4/28/15 4:27pm slangking:

Where's the acapella from anybody ?
Avatar Swag For Life Member Tue. 4/28/15 4:29pm Gaylord Fields:

To think that last week I was lamenting having to listen to this second installment of Brian's incomparable Fall special on earbuds at work rather than blasting it at home, as I did last week. As if technological limitations can contain the power of MES & Co.!
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Tue. 4/28/15 4:32pm JakeGould:

@Gaylord: The right pair of earbuds can truly disconnect one from reality, so hey… It works.
Avatar Tue. 4/28/15 4:33pm d¢ pät:

YEAH, my fave Fall tune.
  Tue. 4/28/15 4:33pm Chris Mohr:

I met a hero of mine...
Avatar Tue. 4/28/15 4:34pm Cecile:

this is keeping me going in every sense of the word.
Avatar Tue. 4/28/15 4:35pm d¢ pät:

I'm kind of surprised at how tight they are in these recordings. I wonder if MES rehearsed the crap out of them.
  Tue. 4/28/15 4:39pm Chris Mohr:

Falsetto crack on the vocals. Yes!!
Avatar Tue. 4/28/15 4:41pm Cecile:

MY SON
Avatar Tue. 4/28/15 4:41pm Guido from Cologne:

What's a Computer?
Brian Turner show!
Best Fall line-up for sure.
  Tue. 4/28/15 4:42pm Chris Mohr:

"What's this, Dad?" "It's 'Lay of the Land,' my son," I said. "Oh, no, is that the Fall again?"
(too real description of actual conversations at my house... should I say eldritch house... my new house)
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Tue. 4/28/15 4:47pm JakeGould:

@ChrisMohr: “Dad’s old hipster music again… Ugh!”
Avatar Tue. 4/28/15 4:48pm Cecile:

will you play Disney's Dream Deferred-uh.?
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Tue. 4/28/15 4:51pm JakeGould:

Fucking great!
Avatar Swag For Life Member Tue. 4/28/15 4:51pm Gaylord Fields:

@JakeGould: I was being a foolish man. I now realize that the Fall would sound like the Fall coming from a state-of-the-art B&O sound system, a tinny transistor radio, or two tin cans connected by a string.
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Tue. 4/28/15 4:57pm JakeGould:

@Gaylord: “…or two tin cans connected by a string.” Those are some fancy cans you got there… Must have been made “Beets by Del Monte.”
Avatar Tue. 4/28/15 4:57pm glenn:

brix still talks like a 15 year old valley girl.
Avatar Tue. 4/28/15 5:03pm glenn:

if a baseball is hit into the stands, and nobody is there to catch it, is it still a home run? news.nationalpost.com...
Avatar Tue. 4/28/15 5:04pm Cecile:

She did neither. The Fall recorded some of their best and worst stuff with her in the band.
Avatar Swag For Life Member Tue. 4/28/15 5:06pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

The Brit-SoCal thing is interesting: Cali. isn't necessarily interested in if the rest of 'America' has picked up on things yet...even tho' the West Coast is further from the UK ...
Avatar Tue. 4/28/15 5:10pm Cecile:

the same is often true for NYC
Avatar Swag For Life Member Tue. 4/28/15 5:11pm drr:

Slates was also the first Fall record I experienced (in 1985?). I didn't like the music at first but I loved the sleeve. Those impossible abbreviations! Still a favorite record sleeve, I like the record a lot now as well.
  Tue. 4/28/15 5:11pm #4:

D. Boon.....
Got a chill of past love....
miss that brother....
Avatar Swag For Life Member Tue. 4/28/15 5:11pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

- of course C'ec.
Avatar Tue. 4/28/15 5:11pm Cecile:

yeah, #4.
Avatar Tue. 4/28/15 5:13pm Cecile:

Boston is kind of interesting, too. Lots of places to play there, at least in the 80s, so that meant there were bands that never needed to get out to the Midwest on tour.
  Tue. 4/28/15 5:13pm JakeGould:

Cities that don't have some port aspect to them tend to be overlooked. Not good but just a reason some U.S. locales fall by the wayside despite cultural relevance.
Avatar Swag For Life Member Tue. 4/28/15 5:14pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

Fall & Minutemen both = normal g-b-d-v + Genius.
Avatar Swag For Life Member Tue. 4/28/15 5:21pm Gaylord Fields:

@Cecile: To illustrate your point, The Jam were kinda biggish in Boston but couldn't draw flies in the rest of the USA, New York included.
Avatar Swag For Life Member Tue. 4/28/15 5:26pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

Interviews the Kewlest ! Thx all !
  Tue. 4/28/15 5:27pm JakeGould:

Jackhammer Drillbit
Avatar Tue. 4/28/15 5:27pm Lopez:

Nicely done. Pretty amazing to think she's known for TV these days
Avatar Tue. 4/28/15 5:27pm Guido from Cologne:

thank you Brian.
never expected to get theese insights.
  Tue. 4/28/15 5:28pm JakeGould:

Martha Raye was mainly known as a denture wearer when I knew her.
  Tue. 4/28/15 5:29pm sara:

sounds of future tv features
  Tue. 4/28/15 5:32pm mnien:

Bombast!!
Avatar Tue. 4/28/15 5:34pm acid casualty:

Bombast!! - Def a fave.
Avatar Tue. 4/28/15 5:35pm singing serpent glen:

shall feel the wrath..
  Tue. 4/28/15 5:35pm mnien:

Note to Gaylord - I've been sitting at work with the earbuds in too. The Fall = productivity slowdown!
Avatar Tue. 4/28/15 5:36pm Hugh:

I don't suppose you have Dktr Faustus in the queueueue? Fantastic show BT, thanks!
  Tue. 4/28/15 5:36pm thefallthings:

New album Sublingual Tablet's opening track Venice With The Girls is up on YouTube
Avatar Tue. 4/28/15 5:41pm Lopez:

Great show today BT
Avatar Tue. 4/28/15 5:42pm Lopez:

Great burger picture too
  Tue. 4/28/15 5:45pm ?:

Anyone know what time are the doors to Monty Hall open tonight?
  Tue. 4/28/15 5:45pm #4:

great versions of all songs.....as in I ain't heard many before at all.....
  Tue. 4/28/15 5:46pm JakeGould:

Now I want a burger.
  Tue. 4/28/15 5:48pm mnien:

Nice fold-in Brian. Excellent series. Thanks much!
  Tue. 4/28/15 5:50pm JakeGould:

Tons of pics of Brix on a huge hamburger. http://www.gettyimages.com/search/2/image?phrase=huge%20burger%20Brix%20smith
  Tue. 4/28/15 5:51pm orphans on tap water:

Great set for a *still* criminally underrated band!!!
Avatar Swag For Life Member Tue. 4/28/15 5:52pm Stepchild:

Thanks for an amazing pair of shows Brian
  Tue. 4/28/15 5:53pm slangking:

Ends nicely with the falls greatest ever live output ;), great show Brian, cheers..
  Tue. 4/28/15 5:54pm JakeGould:

Shows like this are what kids of the future will pass along on file sharing. Kudos!
Avatar Tue. 4/28/15 5:56pm Cheyenne:

Favorite quote from a fellow Fall fan: "Your favorite record is the first one you heard, right?"
  Tue. 4/28/15 5:56pm thefallthings:

Thanks for a tremendous 6 hours of radio at WFMU & Brian Turner!!
  Tue. 4/28/15 5:57pm Marcel M:

Great showwwwww!! thanks Brian
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Tue. 4/28/15 5:57pm Ken From Hyde Park:

Show time at Monty Hall is 8:00 PM tonight. From past events, I've heard that doors open half an hour before the show, so that'd be 7:30. Also, great job on The Fall programs, Brian.
Avatar Tue. 4/28/15 5:57pm Guido from Cologne:

thanks Brian
this was awesome!
  Tue. 4/28/15 5:58pm Stefan:

Many thanks for the 6 hours, Brian. Really enjoyed it.
Avatar Tue. 4/28/15 5:59pm Guido from Cologne:

Just watching Brix's fashion tips
Avatar Tue. 4/28/15 6:02pm Marcel M:

See you all at Monty Hall!
Avatar Tue. 4/28/15 8:03pm Chris M.:

as a Fall fan and fellow live show collector, i just wanted to say that i loved these shows so much! thanks Brian! you're always an inspiration.
  Thu. 6/4/15 4:12pm weloveallthat:

A treat. Wonderful (and frightening) selection. Hats off to Mr. Turner!! This is a COOL group, indeed.
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