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Options March 31, 2015: Presence
See You Next Tuesday! #61: Presence

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Blown Away By Fidelity
Tonight: Presence
Tidal, a new streaming music service from Jay Z., was relaunched in Manhattan yesterday with a star-studded press conference featuring everyone from Rihanna to Jason Aldean to Alicia Keys to Chris Martin to Jack White. Click below to watch:
Rihanna, Nicky Minaj and Madonna at the Tidal Press Conference.
Tidal promises to deliver "CD quality sound" in an artist-curated format, as this promo video attests:
A Daft Punk and scowling Jack White in a Tidal promo video.
Jack White also appears in a Pono (the new streaming service and music player from Neil Young) video:
A Pono promotional video.
Pono and Tidal have me wondering:
  • Where do you get your music from? CD? Shellac? Vinyl? Streams? The radio? YouTube? Bit Torrent?
  • How high-fidelity does it need to be?
  • Do you consider yourself an audiophile or is "good enough" good enough?
  • How much money do you spend on music and audio?
  • How many times have you re-purchased the same material and in how many different formats?
There's lots of debunking of high-fidelity formats on YouTube. Here's just one.
Don't soften to the Pono!
AND: On this day in 1976, the Led Zeppelin album Presence was released. Do you have a copy or is ITS presence not required?


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Special thanks to Brian Turner at WFMU for alerting us to the Tidal press conference and all it implies!
The Master
Last Week: We Are A Dangerous Cult
Last week my in-studio guest was Tony Ortega, of Raw Story and formerly of the Village Voice. Tony's website The Underground Bunker has been peeling back the lid on the Church of Scientology for twenty years.

If you aw Alex Gibney's Scientology documentary Going Clear on HBO this past Sunday you saw Tony onscreen echoing some of his comments on this very special edition of Aerial View.

Here are some playlist comments:
  • Excited to learn more about my favorite cult (next to WFMU, of course)!
  • Evening, Chris!
    Loved The Master, loved Going Clear, anticipating loving the HBO doc.
  • i've got both going clear (book on cd) and jon krakauer's under the banner of heaven (the actual book, about fundamentalist mormonism) checked out from my library. this stuff is giving me the willies!
  • Oh my god!!! He's going to talk about Scientology. I'm going to go hide in my closet
  • Hey Chris! Great interview! L. Ron was a Mellotron owner. Ha!
  • i guess what i wonder is, is Scientology on the wane a bit these days? perhaps the guest will talk about this anyway
  • I found "The Master" incredibly intelligent. Philip Seymour Hoffman and Joaquin Phoenix really delivered.
  • For better or worse, most of what I know about Scientology is from what I saw on a South Park episode.
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Listener comments!

Avatar Swag For Life Member Tue. 3/31/15 6:02pm Marcel M:

My favorite Zep song!

Hello Chris and friends.
Avatar Swag For Life Member Tue. 3/31/15 6:04pm Aaron in Minneapolis:

Hey cant listen live but I am kist wondering where did you come across those L Ron Hubbard Proclaimations?
Avatar Swag For Life Member Tue. 3/31/15 6:04pm Marcel M:

Dang. Turn off all those voices Chris, this is my favorite part (just kidding!)
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Tue. 3/31/15 6:10pm chris:

I don't trust my ears to deliver great sounds anymore due to my own stupidity (lack of hearing protection worn, in my youth). So, I can't claim to be an audiophile. To me, CD is good enough. Digital downloads are usually good enough. Yes, I love vinyl, but I think its a romantic notion to me at this point. No plans for Pono or Tidal for me.
     Tue. 3/31/15 6:10pm Listener Robert:

I actually find Facebook HARD to use, plus it's a PITA to keep up w if you have responsibility for 1.
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Tue. 3/31/15 6:13pm Ken From Hyde Park:

There's Ryan Dunn getting blasted by jet exhaust when he was remaking the old Memorex commercial in one of his movies.
Avatar    Tue. 3/31/15 6:14pm V Priceless:

I wanna start a music streaming service that makes all audio sound like Rock & Roll being played thru a 1960's transistor radio! Who's with me? Yay! Hi Chris and all!
Avatar Swag For Life Member Tue. 3/31/15 6:14pm Marcel M:

What I don't get about PONO is Lossless files are great quality, it really doesn't matter that they are digital. You can play lossless files in your car. What the hell is Neil Young talking about?
Avatar Swag For Life Member Tue. 3/31/15 6:14pm Mike East:

These days I listen to vinyl for a number of reasons, none of which have anything to do with fidelity. I'm fed up with CD's skipping, which is mostly my fault because I didn't take good enough care of them in my 20's...I find its easier to take care of vinyl simply because you can just throw them on a spindle and toss them around your car.

I also like the limits of physical media. I get too overwhelmed by the infinite possibilities of the internet and digital media. I let WFMU sort through that and filter out the garbage for me.
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Tue. 3/31/15 6:15pm dale:

if you grew up recording songs off the radio onto a realistic cassette recorder and listening to scratchy vinyl (like me) then these stoopid services aren't for you. well, me anyway. not to mention that jay z is an asshat.
Avatar Swag For Life Member Tue. 3/31/15 6:15pm Marcel M:

A greater cause? For these people to get richer? Oooo poor millionaire starving artists..
Avatar Swag For Life Member Tue. 3/31/15 6:16pm Marcel M:

@Mike East: In agreement with you there, all of the above. I have friends that download so much music they couldn't possibly listen to it or take enough time to really enjoy listening to it.
Avatar    Tue. 3/31/15 6:17pm V Priceless:

@ dale - well said.
Avatar Swag For Life Member Tue. 3/31/15 6:17pm JakeGould:

In the tradition of “We are the World” and “Do They Know It’s Christmas?” comes, “Hey! You’re All Thieves! We Gotta Get Paid!”
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Tue. 3/31/15 6:18pm dale:

like the throwback pick. that's an organized family.
Avatar Swag For Life Member Tue. 3/31/15 6:18pm JakeGould:

Jaz-Z is all about Brooklyn! Until he decided to decamp to Los Angeles.
Avatar Swag For Life Member Tue. 3/31/15 6:18pm Marcel M:

They feelin' that money energy
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Tue. 3/31/15 6:18pm chris:

Love the play by play, Chris T.
Avatar Swag For Life Member Tue. 3/31/15 6:19pm Mike East:

@Marcel - which brings up another reason for me which is valuing the experience of listening to music...putting on pandora/spotify/whatever in the background isn't worth as much to me as putting a needle on a record and having to pay attention to when its time to flip to side B, etc. More conscious listening.
Avatar    Tue. 3/31/15 6:19pm V Priceless:

where's Noddy Holder?
Avatar Swag For Life Member Tue. 3/31/15 6:19pm Marcel M:

+1 Mike
Avatar Swag For Life Member Tue. 3/31/15 6:19pm JakeGould:

It seems nuts to me that somehow me actually supporting artists on Bandcamp makes me a rebel.
Avatar Swag For Life Member Tue. 3/31/15 6:20pm JakeGould:

Why isn’t Pink Floyd a part of this so they can release another remastering of “Dark Side of the Moon.”
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Tue. 3/31/15 6:20pm dale:

or AOGMEP, for short
Avatar Swag For Life Member Tue. 3/31/15 6:20pm Marcel M:

Bandcamp is great. FMA is also really great exposure I gotta say. And thats *gasp* FREE!
Avatar Tue. 3/31/15 6:21pm Monica:

the fact that a press conference unveiling "the future of music" was held in a post office should tell you something.
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Tue. 3/31/15 6:21pm Greg from Bloomfield:

This is amazing.
Avatar Swag For Life Member Tue. 3/31/15 6:22pm Marcel M:

Only one shoe.
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Tue. 3/31/15 6:23pm Ken From Hyde Park:

They're generous enough to give you a 30-day free trial - www.tidal.com
  Tue. 3/31/15 6:23pm Bebe B:

Offlining your music? Sound the pretense and bullshit horns.
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Tue. 3/31/15 6:23pm dale:

will they partner up with beats by dr. dre for the overpriced players?
Avatar    Tue. 3/31/15 6:23pm V Priceless:

but....if "it's beyond technology"...doesn't that make it worth it? ; )
Avatar Swag For Life Member Tue. 3/31/15 6:24pm Marcel M:

Oh gawd... Don't bring Fred into this...
Avatar Tue. 3/31/15 6:24pm Apples Caruthers:

Jimi Hendrix wouldn't been there; thats for freaking certain.
Jack White has officially joined the ranks of these self aggrandizing ass wipes like Kanye West & Jay z, eck..
  Tue. 3/31/15 6:24pm Zak:

Did these assholes invent the internet or something?
Avatar Tue. 3/31/15 6:24pm ottovonbqe:

ok, can this end now? too much hate-listening.
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Tue. 3/31/15 6:24pm Greg from Bloomfield:

I'll never forget the first time I heard Pavement's "Slanted & Enchanted"...I thought "This demands a platform that ensures a healthy and robust industry."
Avatar    Tue. 3/31/15 6:24pm V Priceless:

whole new error
  Tue. 3/31/15 6:24pm P-90:

You just KNEW old Freddy Neetchy was going to come into this at some point...
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Tue. 3/31/15 6:25pm dale:

it says i need a voucher ken from hp - can i use a government cheese voucher?
  Tue. 3/31/15 6:26pm Nardo:

Wait ..... wwwwhhhaaaaaaaaaaat! Nietzsche? What does he have to do with shitty music. I think he was referring to Wagner.
Avatar Swag For Life Member Tue. 3/31/15 6:27pm JakeGould:

@Monica: It was at the James A. Farley Post Office? Had to be in the upstairs “event area” that is nice for art shows but is filled with asbestos and bird crap. Bravo, Tidal!
Avatar    Tue. 3/31/15 6:28pm V Priceless:

pono - hold the 'h' for 'hopeless'
Avatar Swag For Life Member Tue. 3/31/15 6:29pm JakeGould:

Pono: Plays Only Neil’s Ouds.
  Tue. 3/31/15 6:30pm matt in space:

How about "audio book"?
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Tue. 3/31/15 6:31pm dale:

the bang and olafsen stuff that had the record flipped on it's side was cool. what was that place in manhattan that sold carver and macintosh equipment? my cats would love to lay on those arm tubes.
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Tue. 3/31/15 6:32pm dale:

WARM tubes....
  Tue. 3/31/15 6:32pm P-90:

Yay! The classic AR turntable.
Avatar Swag For Life Member Tue. 3/31/15 6:32pm JakeGould:

@Dale: Stereo Exchange still exists on Broadway.
Avatar Swag For Life Member Tue. 3/31/15 6:33pm Marcel M:

There was a place next to Other Music for a while down there too. Not sure if still there. Had really crazy stuff.
Avatar Swag For Life Member Tue. 3/31/15 6:34pm JakeGould:

I also remember all of the stereo shops on Church Street. J&R was the anchor, but then so many places like Uncle Steve’s.
Avatar Swag For Life Member Tue. 3/31/15 6:35pm Marcel M:

I remember that toothbrush!
Avatar Swag For Life Member Tue. 3/31/15 6:36pm Marcel M:

I spend way too much on records every year.
Avatar Swag For Life Member Tue. 3/31/15 6:37pm JakeGould:

I’m all about digital nowadays. Had CDs and LPs up until 2000 or so. Moving made me realize a hard drive was lighter and easier to deal with.
Avatar Tue. 3/31/15 6:37pm Monica:

@JakeGould, yep! While the hoi polloi were downstairs buying money orders and Forever Stamps, the got rocks were upstairs sippin' the champagne and takin' the selfies :)
Avatar Swag For Life Member Tue. 3/31/15 6:37pm Mike East:

I'd say I spend maybe 100 bucks on records in a year. My wife spends about that on itunes, I'd say. Kills me when she buys stuff that I already own on vinyl, but whatareyougonnado?
Avatar Swag For Life Member Tue. 3/31/15 6:38pm Mike East:

@JakeGould - funny, I'm in the process of moving now and the last thing to go over will be my records.
Avatar Swag For Life Member Tue. 3/31/15 6:39pm Marcel M:

Which model Orange Chris? I keep the presence down man. Like 6:50.
  Tue. 3/31/15 6:39pm P-90:

"Presence" on guitar amps is upper-midrange eq boost.
Avatar Swag For Life Member Tue. 3/31/15 6:40pm JakeGould:

@Monica: Wow. They are trying to push that place as a haughty event space. Went to the “Spring Break Art Show” there and it was perfectly fine for that. Liked that. But for a fancy event? There is serious bird crap and broken ceilings in there.
Avatar Tue. 3/31/15 6:41pm herb.nyc:

(1) when i heard Tidal on radio this morning, i made a note to go to web for more info. i typed Title into Google, and of course got nowhere. and that's where we're going, nowhere fast. (2) special toothpaste for that toothbrush? buy at CVS or Other Music?
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Tue. 3/31/15 6:42pm dale:

take a stand? a stand against what?
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Tue. 3/31/15 6:42pm Ken From Hyde Park:

Today is also the 20th anniversary of Selena's death.
Avatar Swag For Life Member Tue. 3/31/15 6:43pm JakeGould:

@Dale, take a stand against fans actually enjoying your music.
Avatar Swag For Life Member Tue. 3/31/15 6:43pm Marcel M:

This reminds me of the brain washing video in Zoolander
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Tue. 3/31/15 6:43pm Greg from Bloomfield:

GO PRETENSION ALARM, GO!!!
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Tue. 3/31/15 6:43pm chris:

its a Tidal wave of our own oil!
Avatar Swag For Life Member Tue. 3/31/15 6:44pm JakeGould:

When will Tidal announce they are reanimating the corpse of Michael Jackson via a robotic simulacra?
  Tue. 3/31/15 6:45pm P-90:

I'm missing something: What exactly about a new $20/month streaming service is "The dawn of a new era"?
Avatar Swag For Life Member Tue. 3/31/15 6:47pm JakeGould:

@P-90: The issue is first these schmucks complained about MP3s ripping off their CD sales. Now with streaming they are claiming Spotify and Pandora are ripping them off still by not paying enough. So Tidal will “fix” that.
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Tue. 3/31/15 6:48pm dale:

i heard people discussing speaker wire once - tested monster cable and all that baloney and the wire people preferred in a blind taste test was television twin lead
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Tue. 3/31/15 6:49pm Ken From Hyde Park:

In the "Last Week" section, the link to the playlist is currently pointing to the Aerial View from March 10.
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Tue. 3/31/15 6:49pm Jeff:

Wow. That anti-Pono video screed is really mean-spirited, and ultimately not actually a useful addition to the world.

I don't actually understand the psychology of people who take it as their mission to be professional debunkers, especially those who specialize in making fun of any audio equipment they've made up their minds must not be worth buying - and they always, always make up their minds based on some theoretical consideration they're convinced is carved in stone, never based on actually listening to the stuff.
Avatar Swag For Life Member Tue. 3/31/15 6:50pm JakeGould:

@Dale: I had a girlfriend in California who told me that she had stereo problems and I should check it out when I visit her. I did. You know what the problem was? The receiver could handle two sets of speakers, and she wired both right and left speakers to two separate left connections. It took me about 45 minutes to explain why 5 seconds of switching wire fixed it. People like that would pay $30 for magical wire.
Avatar    Tue. 3/31/15 6:51pm V Priceless:

I think there's a greater limit to the human perception of audio, versus, say, three-dimensional visual media, etc. - it would be fab if we had the hearing of dogs, but alas...
  Tue. 3/31/15 6:51pm P-90:

I've BEEN to listening tests, yes, the difference between a 5-7 thousand dollar system and a 10-15 thousand dollar system is usually just a matter of "taste", as it would be between two systems at either of those levels. But: the difference between a $1500-$2500 system and the 5-7 thousand dollar systems is easily discernible, even by skeptical amateurs. (And yes, in blind comparison tests.)
Avatar Swag For Life Member Tue. 3/31/15 6:52pm JakeGould:

@VPriceless: As far as I am concerned, some of the greatest music in the world was recorded and mastered to be heard on crappy mono car stereos. And the whole world of perfect sound is manufactured bullshit. How much money was wasted in the 1970s on nonsense stereo systems. My iPhone sounds great. That’s it as far as I am concerned.
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Tue. 3/31/15 6:53pm Ike:

I listen to (probably too many) MP3s, as well CDs and the occasional cassette from the 90s, but largely to WFMU via FM radio, often in mono to reduce static.
Avatar Swag For Life Member Tue. 3/31/15 6:54pm Marcel M:

Yes! Just play Achilles
  Tue. 3/31/15 6:55pm P-90:

I'm a bit of an "audiophile", I've worked building boutique speakers, etc, and while I have some STRONG reservations about PONO, that YouTube video IS just mean-spirited and stupid. hrumph!
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Tue. 3/31/15 6:55pm chris:

oh snap, he pulled the bull crap card
Avatar Swag For Life Member Tue. 3/31/15 6:55pm Marcel M:

Thank you my son. See you next Tuesday.
Avatar    Tue. 3/31/15 6:56pm V Priceless:

@ JakeG - agreed. Most '60's rock & roll was mixed to be listened to on portable radios, and most of it STILL sounds great!
  Tue. 3/31/15 6:56pm P-90:

"Mellow"? wtf?! Please don't.
  Tue. 3/31/15 6:57pm LES:

That old dude is pig biting mad
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Tue. 3/31/15 6:57pm Jeff:

I was planning awhile ago to subscribe to Tidal to have a listen - the notion of lossless streaming is pretty cool, and Tidal is actually scheduled to be the first way to hear things streamed in the very interesting Meridian MQA format. The recent star-studded video is pretty icky, though - did some of those asshats buy in recently?

I don't think I'll let Jay-Z or the scorn of Chris and Brian scare me away from good tech, though.
Avatar Swag For Life Member Tue. 3/31/15 6:57pm Mike East:

Whenever I record music myself, the final test is always a drive on the car stereo
Avatar Swag For Life Member Tue. 3/31/15 6:57pm Marcel M:

I think he played out of phase a lot on this record.
Avatar Swag For Life Member Tue. 3/31/15 6:57pm JakeGould:

@VPriceless: Glen Jones talked about how horrible the Ramones sound on a real stereo system. The music was mixed for average systems. No problem.
  Tue. 3/31/15 7:04pm Old Dave:

How well can Neil hear at this point? Probably less than myself after all the chainsaw and other loud noise over 55 years. How to justify any extraordinary audio equipment, now that I can afford it finally, would be pretentious of me! Rather give the cash away to poor people.
Avatar Swag For Life Member Tue. 3/31/15 7:06pm JakeGould:

Honestly the only piece of audio equipment i think is a valid “extravagance” nowadays is actual speakers. Not even headphones. Those all the same to me. But a good pair of speakers is an upgrade.
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Tue. 3/31/15 7:06pm Ken From Hyde Park:

My car came with a Sirius/XM free trial. The music from that service seem compressed and unnatural. For driving long distances and you want radio, it's convenient, but I wouldn't pay for it. Now that I think of it, I think I caught part of Chris T's satellite program once while flipping around.
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Tue. 3/31/15 7:21pm dale:

i have infinity and celestion bookshelf speakers i bought about 1990 that still sound fantastic.
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