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Options December 29, 2013

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Artist Track Album
Orchestra of Spheres  2,000,000 Years   Options Vibration Animal Sex Brain Music 
X-Ray Pop  Le Bateau Cellulose   Options Ding Dong Songs 
Herb Ellis  Chung King   Options Gravy Waltz 
Shayna Dulberger  Heart Like a Rabbit   Options Ache & Flutter 
 
Cassiber  It's Never Quiet   Options Cassiber Box 
Giuseppe Ielasi & Nicola Ratti  [track 5]   Options Bellows 
Ronnie Boykins  Dawn Is Evening, Afternoon   Options The Will Come, Is Now 
Coxhill/Minton/Akchote  The Christmas Song   Options 7" 
 
Matthew Shipp  Cosmic Shuffle   Options Piano Sutras 
Tom Recchion  A Christmas Filled with Tears   Options 7" 
Charles Amirkhanian  Dutiful Ducks   Options Lexical Music 
Chihei Hatakeyama  Renitency   Options Mirror 
 
The Capybaras  Radical Rodent   Options Stropicalia 
Wayne Mason  Quietly Burning Down Conscousness   Options Vague Directives 
Sol Mogerman  Old Man   Options Wishbone Bridge 1971-1972 
Maurice Deebank  Maestoso con Anima   Options Inner Thought Zone 
Vincent Le Masne and Bertrand Porquet  Clin d'Oeuvre   Options Guitares Dérive 
 
Murat Tepeli  Nafile Gitmiyor Hasreti Remix   Options V/A: New German Ethnic Music 
Sainkho Namchylak/Shelley Hirsch/Catherine Bott  The Virgin's Hollow   Options Temenos OST 
Ross Bolleter  And Then I Saw the Wind   Options Secret Sandhills and Satellites 
Curt Boetcher  Without Her   Options There's an Innocent Face 
The Dutch Jazz Orchestra  Blue Star   Options Portrait of a Silk Thread 
Elliot Sharp  Arc of Venus   Options Aggregat Quintet 
 
Miles Davis  Dr. Jekyll   Options The Original Mono Recordings 

Listener comments!

Avatar    Sun. 12/29/13 10:01pm Dave Mandl:

Evening, amigos.
  Sun. 12/29/13 10:03pm scuttle:

Off to an awesome start!
Avatar    Sun. 12/29/13 10:04pm fleep:

On behalf of animal sex brains everywhere, good evening Dave.
Avatar    Sun. 12/29/13 10:04pm pacific standard simon:

Is this really you? I thought someone else was subbing, based on the first song.
Avatar    Sun. 12/29/13 10:04pm Ken From Hyde Park:

Hi Dave, and all the other various Dave listeners.
Avatar    Sun. 12/29/13 10:05pm Dave Mandl:

Hey fleep, scuttle, pss, Ken. Nope, it's really me.
Avatar    Sun. 12/29/13 10:05pm pacific standard simon:

Dave's Slaves.
Avatar    Sun. 12/29/13 10:05pm Dave Mandl:

@scuttle: Thanks.
Avatar Sun. 12/29/13 10:06pm Droll:

Alleged-DM, Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.
Avatar    Sun. 12/29/13 10:07pm David L.B. is RRN63:

Daves is Here.
     Sun. 12/29/13 10:07pm 12539:

We'll know it's the real Mandl if he mentions Clive Bunker.
Avatar    Sun. 12/29/13 10:08pm Dave Mandl:

Clive Bunker! The best!
Avatar    Sun. 12/29/13 10:08pm JakeGould:

Hello all! Will most likely leave this text field soon, but will listen in camaraderie & joy. Thanks for the great stuff Dave!
Avatar    Sun. 12/29/13 10:08pm Dave Mandl:

And evening, Droll, DLB etc., 12539.
Avatar    Sun. 12/29/13 10:09pm Dave Mandl:

Hey Jake. My pleasure.
Avatar    Sun. 12/29/13 10:09pm David L.B. is RRN63:

...David did not keep Slaves. He was a militant imperialist warlord after Jehovah's own heart.
Avatar    Sun. 12/29/13 10:11pm pacific standard simon:

Clive Bunker was in a short-lived band called Jude with Robin Trower, after Trower left Procul Harum. Just a hint.
Avatar    Sun. 12/29/13 10:11pm David L.B. is RRN63:

..okay: I wanna hear that...
Avatar    Sun. 12/29/13 10:14pm Dave Mandl:

When I was a kid I preferred Barriemore Barlow, Bunker's replacement in Jethro Tull. But I've started to appreciate Bunker again in the past few years.
Avatar    Sun. 12/29/13 10:14pm Dave Mandl:

Bunker is my Facebook friend. He posts slightly nutty stuff about Obama, or at least he used to.
Avatar    Sun. 12/29/13 10:14pm David L.B. is RRN63:

...'Heart Like a Rabbit': Pledge scaled down from $15/month to $10/month...
Avatar Sun. 12/29/13 10:17pm Droll:

DM, I'm not choosy about Tull drummers, for me Tull was always an Ian Anderson solo project with a band name.
Avatar    Sun. 12/29/13 10:18pm pacific standard simon:

One of the weirdest fan pages I ever saw was one that was half fanatical Grateful Dead stuff and half right-wing rants and demands that The Dead recant their support of the left.
Avatar Sun. 12/29/13 10:19pm Droll:

I think the jumpsuit uniforms with the letter A gave me the impression everyone in a jumpsuit is a hired sideman, the guy with bug-eyes and a flute is the one to pay attention to.
Avatar    Sun. 12/29/13 10:20pm fleep:

Chung King track unclicks itself each time I click the star, is there a remedy?
Avatar    Sun. 12/29/13 10:20pm David L.B. is RRN63:

...three weeks of - >Dave< - Emory show have twisted my head around...
Avatar    Sun. 12/29/13 10:21pm David L.B. is RRN63:

Uncle Sam - that's who I am. You can find me ranting - on my blog about an anarchic band...
Avatar Sun. 12/29/13 10:22pm Droll:

fleep, Damnitol taken 3 times a day, taken before meals.
Avatar    Sun. 12/29/13 10:24pm pacific standard simon:

When they say "Heart Like a Rabbit" they mean, of course, the Monty Python killer rabbit.
Avatar    Sun. 12/29/13 10:24pm fleep:

Droll, excellent. Let the not caring commence.
Avatar    Sun. 12/29/13 10:26pm Dave Mandl:

I abandoned Tull long before the jumpsuits. And really they weren't just Ian Anderson. The band, especially the drummers, were always extremely important to the group.
Avatar    Sun. 12/29/13 10:27pm David L.B. is RRN63:

fleep: If you look @ you Faves on your Profile page - you'll see they're there (pretty sure) - & the ☆s will 'fill in' later. Doesn't help keep track of them (not 'filling in') of course...perhaps even Wizard Kenzo's powers are limited by Iluvatar (that's Theology)...
Avatar Sun. 12/29/13 10:29pm Droll:

Had to stop cooking and come back here to agree about this drummer. Spiffy stuff!

Back to cooking.
Avatar    Sun. 12/29/13 10:29pm pacific standard simon:

I'm with Dave on the Tull question.
Avatar Sun. 12/29/13 10:31pm Tome:

Hey DM hey kids! first time I saw this one had to take a 2nd look -->> bit.ly...
Avatar    Sun. 12/29/13 10:32pm Ken From Hyde Park:

Twenty-some years ago, my friend and I were at the Museum Of American History in Washington. In the agricultural room, he pointed to a plaque that mentioned Jethro Tull. We had a good laugh just then.
Avatar    Sun. 12/29/13 10:33pm Dave Mandl:

@Tome: That's Tony Iommi on guitar, but the band is lip-sync'ing.
Avatar    Sun. 12/29/13 10:33pm David L.B. is RRN63:

- yeah - Tull had Tony Iommi @ the R'n'R Circus! - I wonder if he still had all his fingertips !??...
Avatar    Sun. 12/29/13 10:34pm David L.B. is RRN63:

- lip-synching - ?!
Avatar Sun. 12/29/13 10:35pm Tome:

I know but just seeing Tony with the left hand strat!!!,, and he was with the band what like a month or so? .. or lip sych for sure that is directly from the first "This Was" record...
Avatar    Sun. 12/29/13 10:35pm Dave Mandl:

DLB: Ian Andersson is singing, but the rest of it is on tape.
Avatar    Sun. 12/29/13 10:35pm Dave Mandl:

Iommi was in the band for about a week.
Avatar    Sun. 12/29/13 10:36pm fleep:

RRN63, yes, Chung King is there, thanks for the tip. Fave list is so handy for following groups/artists later on, got on a Majutsu No Niwa jag last night after Long Rally.
Avatar Sun. 12/29/13 10:37pm Tome:

well I'm playing "air bass" but loving the show as always !!
Avatar    Sun. 12/29/13 10:38pm David L.B. is RRN63:

- ha! The Wh♂ smoked the R'n'R Circus! - & Dirty Mac is something else too...The Stones thot they were sub-par - but I think they're great. Sadly, Brian Jones *is* totally >out of it<, however...
Avatar Sun. 12/29/13 10:46pm Mitt's Tathiti Marlin:

Hey save me a seat for the radio fueled party tonight!
Avatar    Sun. 12/29/13 10:48pm pacific standard simon:

It's a Big Table.
Avatar    Sun. 12/29/13 10:48pm Dave Mandl:

MTM: You got it.
Avatar Sun. 12/29/13 10:50pm thorntooth grenadier:

@PSS When your're here your're home, just like a big Italian family except for the passive-aggressive chit-chat over chianti.
Avatar    Sun. 12/29/13 10:54pm pacific standard simon:

We used to have hippie vegetarian dinners over a huge table made from a utility company cable spool. Wine would have been a blessing.
Avatar    Sun. 12/29/13 10:55pm David L.B. is RRN63:

...I have wine. A hippie vegetarian dinner would be a blessing...
Avatar Sun. 12/29/13 10:57pm Tarpon Megalops:

I decorated my first apartment with spools for tables; sides decoupaged with my dad's empty Camel unfiltered cigarette packs. And kept a woodburner on hand for guests to burn art work on the top. Eventually upgraded and had a friend surface the tops with faux leather formica.
  Sun. 12/29/13 10:57pm Doctor B.:

Damn! I never thought I'd hear that Charles Amirkhanian track ever again! Dutiful! D-D-D-Dutiful!
Avatar    Sun. 12/29/13 10:59pm Dave Mandl:

Dr. B: Wishes do come true.
Avatar    Sun. 12/29/13 10:59pm David L.B. is RRN63:

...no fowls made by *them* diligent mallards & mates...
Avatar    Sun. 12/29/13 11:00pm David L.B. is RRN63:

...excepting offspring obviously.
Avatar    Sun. 12/29/13 11:00pm pacific standard simon:

You say that, but do I hear Montrose...? Noooooo.... ;)
Avatar    Sun. 12/29/13 11:01pm David L.B. is RRN63:

...get on your bad mallard scooter & ride pss...
Avatar    Sun. 12/29/13 11:05pm pacific standard simon:

Ducks ducks! Ducks on the wall!
Avatar    Sun. 12/29/13 11:08pm David L.B. is RRN63:

...Radical Rodent & Revolution Rabbit bear the same relation to each other as do the People's Front of Judea to the Judean People's Front...
Avatar    Sun. 12/29/13 11:10pm pacific standard simon:

Consistently burning the couscous.
Avatar    Sun. 12/29/13 11:11pm David L.B. is RRN63:

...ah well - there's still wine pss...
Avatar Sun. 12/29/13 11:13pm Droll:

Dinner still burns my lips, but my Sriracha bottle is getting low. Is it true there's going to be a shortage in 2014? Should I stockpile?
Avatar    Sun. 12/29/13 11:15pm pacific standard simon:

I've already put aside an extra bottle, just in case. Now I'm wondering if it should go sideways.
Avatar    Sun. 12/29/13 11:15pm David L.B. is RRN63:

Droll: BBC says it's ok :
www.bbc.co.uk...
...not sure about the couscous...
Avatar    Sun. 12/29/13 11:17pm David L.B. is RRN63:

- oh - hot sauce shortage!
...It's harsh you get used to something...
Avatar    Sun. 12/29/13 11:17pm fleep:

Global Sriracha shortage threatens all life on earth
boingboing.net...
Avatar    Sun. 12/29/13 11:21pm pacific standard simon:

@RRN63 - I figured out that your link was a goof pretty quickly, but was entranced by another link at the bottom of the same page:

www.bbc.co.uk...
Avatar Sun. 12/29/13 11:22pm Droll:

pss, If the Sriracha requires decanting, it is past the "Best By" date.

fleep, Have you ever tried ketchup in phở? They don't call it "Hipster Ketchup" for nuthin'. Accept no substitutes.
Avatar    Sun. 12/29/13 11:24pm David L.B. is RRN63:

...BBC News still good for something...
Avatar    Sun. 12/29/13 11:26pm pacific standard simon:

As you might have guessed, John Fahey could be a dick.
Avatar    Sun. 12/29/13 11:28pm Dave Mandl:

@pss: Yeah, so they say.
Avatar    Sun. 12/29/13 11:29pm pacific standard simon:

I like to mix sriracha with ketchup for french fry dipping.
Avatar    Sun. 12/29/13 11:30pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever):

@fleep & RRN63: When a star looks like it's unclicked itself, fear not: it's just an illusion that happens when the DJ makes an edit to the song info. It'll fill back in in 54 seconds or less!
Avatar Sun. 12/29/13 11:30pm Droll:

If I could get a rejection letter from Fahey, I'd frame it. They (The Industry) haven't returned tapes since the 60's, and written individual rejections since the 70's, or any notification at all since the 80's.
Avatar    Sun. 12/29/13 11:31pm Dave Mandl:

Kenzo: So it's my fault. Figures.
Avatar    Sun. 12/29/13 11:32pm fleep:

Droll, Sriracha: chilis, sugar, salt. Avoiding the latter two means if I want heat, I just dice up a jalapeno.
Avatar    Sun. 12/29/13 11:32pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever):

P.S. I've got my jerk seasoning, kalonji, and homemade pineapple habanero sauce goin' right now.
Avatar Sun. 12/29/13 11:32pm Droll:

54 SECONDS?! [Rolling eyes] I thought you used "technology".
Avatar    Sun. 12/29/13 11:32pm David L.B. is RRN63:

- I think Irwin said Fahey told Mogerman to get a particualr kind of Therapy. Not exactly creative mentoring...
Avatar    Sun. 12/29/13 11:32pm pacific standard simon:

Good point, Droll. And thanks for the information, Ken!
Avatar    Sun. 12/29/13 11:32pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever):

You can make it shorter than 54 seconds by hitting reload on the playlist page, Mr. Droll.
Avatar    Sun. 12/29/13 11:32pm fleep:

Kenzo: danke!
Avatar    Sun. 12/29/13 11:33pm pacific standard simon:

@fleep - GARLIC. Lots of garlic.
Avatar Sun. 12/29/13 11:34pm Droll:

kenzo, Me hit reload? I can't hit reload every time fleep wants an update!
Avatar Sun. 12/29/13 11:35pm tepid charger:

If your an artist being asked to give encouragement to an aspiring artist, it's a tough call. I seem to remember a story about Jon Bon Jovi, while employed as a janitor in a recording studio asking Bruce Springsteen for advice (which was not encouraging). So, depending how you look at it....Springsteen might have just been trying to protect us all from Bon Jovi. And of course, Bon Jovi will never let Springsteen forget it.
Avatar    Sun. 12/29/13 11:37pm David L.B. is RRN63:

- I have found that Artists have enuff ego invested in their own particular Vision that they don't always relate to Another's...which makes sense in a way - because they have chosen to do it *this* way - not some other guy's - if you see what I mean...
Avatar    Sun. 12/29/13 11:38pm pacific standard simon:

I've been reading the biography of Richard Brautigan lately. It makes it pretty clear that if you were a writer looking for advice or encouragement, you would be making a big mistake talking to Brautigan.
Avatar    Sun. 12/29/13 11:41pm Dave Mandl:

Professional jealousy, I guess. Not a huge surprise, though many successful artists are generous and encouraging to the new kids.
Avatar    Sun. 12/29/13 11:42pm David L.B. is RRN63:

'The best advice is __ advice @ all.' - John Cage
...Like - if I were to show the rudiments of Guitar to anyone, I would start by saying do what makes sense to you anyway; Bach wrote for lute, not guitar: to quote Austin Powers - it's history is it's been the village bicycle - everyone's had a ride...
Avatar    Sun. 12/29/13 11:42pm pacific standard simon:

And to wrap up that thought, I would never put sriracha in pho, but I do have a few drops on my poached eggs in the morning.
Avatar Sun. 12/29/13 11:43pm Pintos and grease:

Yes, personal vision probably clouds all serious artists perspective. But if, from experience, you know that you have just heard (or seen) crap, you know you'll be hated for saying so, or worse, lie to fella', likely sending them into a goose chase life of hardship and frustration. Like you mention, it can be just a simple matter of ego that gets between any reasonable criticism.
Avatar    Sun. 12/29/13 11:45pm David L.B. is RRN63:

...yerknow - most people can't get to The Shaggs anyhow - right - ??...
Avatar Sun. 12/29/13 11:45pm Droll:

DM, At first I thought the same thing, but the most humble musicians who will break down everything and show you for free (YT has dozens of examples). They have no secret to keep: Van Halen sounds like Eddie regardless of the gear. Ditto Beck, Belew, May, Holdwsorth, Snakefinger, B.B. King, Fripp...
Avatar Sun. 12/29/13 11:48pm Lil' T-Bird Ford:

Clapton made an telling statement in the beginning of his career, explaining exactly what settings he used to get his sound...as if that information was going to help ANYONE play as masterfully as he. It wasn't the treble setting that made Clapton a legend.
Avatar    Sun. 12/29/13 11:50pm Dave Mandl:

Keith Richards's comments on his 5-string guitar playing in his autobiography were interesting. He said thousands of people have tried to copy his stuff but couldn't because they were using normal 6-strings with standard tuning.
Avatar    Sun. 12/29/13 11:50pm David L.B. is RRN63:

- than again, knowing he was fiddling w/ the tone knob *does* make a difference!...The accepted wisodm now is that if you have the stuff to begin w/ - it takes 10,000 hours to master anything: this characterizes the Coltranes & Hendrix's: they are inseperable from their instruments...
Avatar    Sun. 12/29/13 11:51pm pacific standard simon:

I've spent many many hours trying to teach baking, and my experience is that most of them ignore what you tell them anyway.
Avatar Sun. 12/29/13 11:52pm Droll:

It was Nigel Tufnel's volume setting, however, that made him famous, and is the secret to his tone. One of my amps goes to Infinity, but it's actually impedance, not volume...

pss, Sorry, did you say something?
Avatar    Sun. 12/29/13 11:53pm David L.B. is RRN63:

Ancient Taoist Wisdom: Student comes to Teacher - not the other way around...
Avatar Sun. 12/29/13 11:54pm Wildcat Impala:

I would tend to claim they are inseparable from their *talents* and discipline. They could pick up any store bought instrument and make it come alive with sheer virtuosity. Hendrix did a lot of electronic tricks with the circuitry too, of course.
Avatar Sun. 12/29/13 11:55pm road runner duster:

Sufi wisdom is that the master serves the student.
Avatar Sun. 12/29/13 11:55pm Droll:

Oh crap! It's over already! Bye DM! Sorry it's over already, seem's like there should still be time for a long pause and some Mellotron...
Avatar    Sun. 12/29/13 11:57pm pacific standard simon:

True, because the student cannot help himself.
Avatar    Sun. 12/29/13 11:57pm David L.B. is RRN63:

- also true: nothing of Jimi's was standard 'off the shelf': guitar upside-down, tuned half-step down, pickups rewired (by himself), amps rewired, stompboxes to order, &tc. ...
- After the Student has come, sure...
     Sun. 12/29/13 11:57pm 12539:

Thanks Mr Mandl!
Avatar Sun. 12/29/13 11:58pm Andrew Waterloo:

You can't just practice though, you also have to experiment. I find a lot of young students get stuck practicing the small collection of things they learn and never try to sound like the musicians that inspire them because they think they're not ready for that page..
Avatar    Sun. 12/29/13 11:58pm pacific standard simon:

Riiiiight... IN THE LAST TWO MINUTES, DAVE.
Avatar    Sun. 12/29/13 11:58pm Dave Mandl:

Thanks, folks. Have a great new year!
Avatar Sun. 12/29/13 11:58pm Lark and Eagle:

I think the philosophy behind the Sufi is that a student must be able to allow himself to be served before he can learn to learn
Avatar Sun. 12/29/13 11:59pm Droll:

Ahhh, when cats really played faster than MIDI...
Avatar    Mon. 12/30/13 12:00am Dave Mandl:

@Droll: I have some Mellotron with me, but I didn't get to it. Next time.
Avatar    Mon. 12/30/13 12:01am pacific standard simon:

2014: More Mellotron!
Avatar Mon. 12/30/13 12:01am Droll:

For those wishing to hear the rest: www.youtube.com...
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