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Favoriting June 16, 2013

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Artist Track Album Approx. start time
Sonny Clark  Somethin' Special   Favoriting Leapin' and Lopin'  0:00:00 (Pop-up)
Gerd Dudek/Buschi Niebergall/Edward Vesala  Manchmal   Favoriting Open  0:06:16 (Pop-up)
Roscoe Mitchell  Ornette (alternate)   Favoriting Sound  0:12:16 (Pop-up)
Susie Ibarra / Denis Charles  Welcome   Favoriting Drum Talk  0:17:37 (Pop-up)
Modern Jazz Quartet  Bag's Groove   Favoriting Dedicated to Connie  0:21:23 (Pop-up)
 
The Focus Group  Kinky Korner Klub   Favoriting The Elektrik Karousel  0:33:05 (Pop-up)
The Static Tics  Nishapur or Balkh   Favoriting My Favorite Tics  0:35:36 (Pop-up)
Miko  New Town   Favoriting Chandelier  0:39:17 (Pop-up)
Cluster & Eno  Ho Renomo   Favoriting Cluster & Eno  0:43:45 (Pop-up)
Phil Minton Quartet  Back   Favoriting Slur  0:47:46 (Pop-up)
 
Luciano Cilio  Primo Quadro "Della Conoscenza" Da "Dialoghi Dal Presente"   Favoriting Dell' Universo Assente  0:57:53 (Pop-up)
Circle  Wherever Particular People Congregate   Favoriting Meronia  1:05:29 (Pop-up)
Der Musikant  Armer Tropf   Favoriting Distanz  1:08:33 (Pop-up)
Peter Ivers  Cat Scratch Fever   Favoriting Knight of the Blue Communion  1:11:23 (Pop-up)
Anne-James Chaton / Andy Moor  Not Guilty   Favoriting Transfer  1:18:55 (Pop-up)
 
Richard Pinhas  Square   Favoriting Desolation Row  1:32:30 (Pop-up)
Crank Sturgeon & Lineland  Do That (Plural)   Favoriting Other Occasions Not Minded  1:40:02 (Pop-up)
The Cinematic Orchestra  Ma Fleur   Favoriting Ma Fleur  1:44:41 (Pop-up)
Die Knödel  Duduradu   Favoriting Panorama  1:48:34 (Pop-up)
 
Albert Ayler  Ghosts (live)   Favoriting Holy Ghost  1:59:36 (Pop-up)
Momus  Oskar Tennis Champion   Favoriting Oskar Tennis Champion  2:07:02 (Pop-up)
Girolamo de Simone  Campane o della Solitudine   Favoriting Shama  2:10:07 (Pop-up)
Art-Errorist & Acid Cobra  Crushed Croissants   Favoriting Cold Waters  2:20:24 (Pop-up)
Ali Mohammed Bira  Awash   Favoriting Great Oromo Music: Ethipiques Vol 28  2:21:57 (Pop-up)
 
Area C  Trick with a Knife   Favoriting Trick with a Knife  2:29:29 (Pop-up)
Der Plan  Der Todesmonolog   Favoriting Die Letzte Rache  2:35:51 (Pop-up)
Minamo  Draw the Line   Favoriting Documental  2:41:09 (Pop-up)
Ellen Fullman/Konrad Sprenger  Train   Favoriting Ort  2:51:05 (Pop-up)
Mark Lanegan/Duke Garwood  Last Rung   Favoriting Black Pudding  2:55:35 (Pop-up)


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Listener comments!

Avatar 9:02pm
Dave E:

Hi Dave M
Avatar 9:03pm
Dave Mandl:

Evening, dear listeners.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:03pm
BDR:

World famous celebrity here. I'm inexplicably drawn to you.
Avatar 9:03pm
deanland:

Great way to start the program...always a tough task, following Monica!!
Avatar 9:03pm
Dave E:

Nice start to the show.
Avatar 9:04pm
Dave Mandl:

And...we have our first Dave checking in. Hey.
Avatar 9:04pm
Dave Mandl:

And two non-Daves. Hey, dean/BDR.
Avatar 9:04pm
Dave E:

Mind if I call you Dave to avoid confusion?
Avatar 9:05pm
Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

DAVES
Avatar 9:05pm
Dave Mandl:

@BDR: I know you've tried to resist, but it's hopeless.
Avatar 9:05pm
Dave Mandl:

Hey there, RRN63.
Avatar 9:06pm
Dave E:

The Dave club!
  9:06pm
bloopy:

hey there!
Avatar 9:07pm
Dave E:

Is Bloopy a Dave?
Avatar 9:07pm
Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

...Daves - NonDaves
- 50-50%!...
Avatar 9:08pm
Dave E:

are you half Dave or half not Dave?
Avatar 9:08pm
Dave Mandl:

But each Dave is worth 1.2 non-Daves.
Avatar 9:08pm
Dave Mandl:

I see his Dave as half-full.
Avatar 9:09pm
Dave E:

How does one have a .2 non-Dave?
Avatar 9:09pm
Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

- oh - I'm a Dave, & I'm full of it awlright...
  9:10pm
bloopy:

non-dave i'm afraid
Avatar 9:10pm
Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

- soundin' like late Coltrane - & I like that very much Thx...
Avatar 9:11pm
Dave E:

oh well, join in on the Dave fun anyway.
Avatar 9:12pm
Dave E:

is that Dave M on drums?
Avatar 9:14pm
Dave Mandl:

@Dave E.: If you don't hear the drummer drop a stick, it's probably not me.
Avatar 9:15pm
Dave E:

Duct tape could fix that problem?
Avatar 9:19pm
Dave Mandl:

Ouch.
Avatar 9:20pm
Dave E:

Neat drum track, love them drums . . .
Avatar 9:20pm
Dave E:

....meanwhile back in the jungle.
Avatar 9:21pm
Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

...they talk w/ drums...
  Swag For Life Member 9:23pm
12539:

I am enjoying your show. My name is not Dave. That is all for now.
Avatar 9:24pm
Dave Mandl:

But...that's not possible.
Avatar 9:24pm
Dave E:

time to put the timer on and head off to ZZZZZZZZ. Don't play anything to rough now.
Avatar 9:24pm
deanland:

About to put my set of 1966 Ludwig pearl drums, Zildian cymbals(ride, crash, sizzle, high-hat) and Gretsch accessories (mostly) into storage. Just no room for them, NYC being known for tight spaces.
Avatar 9:35pm
Dave Mandl:

Sounds like a beautiful kit. What color?
Avatar 9:37pm
Droll:

Type "Elektrik Karousel" into Google, Google responds "Did you mean: electric carousel"

deanland, Good news, there's enough room here in Seattle for just such a kit!
Avatar 9:38pm
Dave Mandl:

How embarrassing for Google.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:40pm
G:

I evade Dave status :p
Avatar 9:41pm
Dave Mandl:

Subversive.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:41pm
G:

Bingo.
  9:49pm
common:

yes
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:03pm
G:

Dell'Universo Assente = From/Of the Absent Universe
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:03pm
G:

or, About the Absent Universe (sounding like a book title)
Avatar 10:04pm
Droll:

If the universe makes a sound and nobody is there to hear it...
Avatar 10:06pm
deanland:

The kit is gray pearl. it is total vintage of the era. It traveled well, from NY where I grew up to college in the Midwest, then to the south where I worked, up to Massachusetts (more work) then back to NY where it was with me in the burbs for a long time. One fellow at a gig saw it and told me he drooled over seeing a drummer with (get this!) "Ringo's drum set!"
Avatar 10:08pm
Dave Mandl:

Yup, not surprising.
Avatar 10:08pm
Droll:

HA! Do you also throw towels over them so they go thud-thud-thud?
Avatar 10:10pm
Dave Mandl:

Do you smoke a cigarette while you're playing?
Avatar 10:14pm
deanland:

@Droll: We did put a blanket in the bass drum for a little while until I got a new pedal. The old, original pedal (Ludwig) had poor action and needed to be thumped like mad, making it louder than intended -- for quite some time I tried retuning the drum -- then Roy Blumenfeld, drummer for the Blues Project, told me to try another pedal. Wow, was he ever correct. That was when I began slowly changing over slowly to all Gretsch accessories.

@Dave: back in the early 70's maybe, but not for the 35+ years since I quit!!!!
Avatar 10:14pm
Droll:

I love the version of this on Double Live Gonzo!
  Swag For Life Member 10:15pm
12539:

Cat Scratch Fever! This should fall under the 2% Rock and roll, but somehow...
Avatar 10:17pm
Dave Mandl:

This is the Ted Nugent no one really knows.
Avatar 10:17pm
deanland:

I think maybe it is Ned Tugent.
Avatar 10:21pm
Dave Mandl:

@deanland: Good for you (quitting smoking). But I have to admit there's something cool about him smoking while he's playing in Hard Day's Night.
Avatar 10:24pm
Droll:

Funny, because Brian Epstein urged them to quit smoking and drinking onstage when they were in Germany. They couldn't escape the "naughty" image.
Avatar 10:26pm
Droll:

I love the head flopping back and forth Ringo look, but Paul is still my favorite Beatles drummer.
  10:27pm
pete l:

Peter ivers tune ruined me
  10:28pm
common:

this is great thank you
Avatar 10:30pm
deanland:

According to a Beatles book I read, on a number of the cuts on some early Beatles albums, George Martin called in a drummer, sort of the Hal Blaine of London, to cover the drum track. Ringo, it seemed. learned on the job, and was somewhat tutored by George Martin. Probably more in style than in chops.
Avatar 10:32pm
Dave Mandl:

@deanland: Hmmm, well there are a lot of legends about Ringo, but I believe there was only track that they used a session guy on. Love Me Do.
Avatar 10:33pm
Dave Mandl:

Actually, a version of the song that was never released.
Avatar 10:39pm
Dave Mandl:

True story: Bernard Purdie claims he played drums on many Beatle records, but Ringo got credit. Completely crazy.
Avatar 10:44pm
deanland:

Good to know re Love Me Do. I heard that the Purdie stories were false. There's a fellow named Scott Freiman who does lectures deconstructing the Beatles. He's an expert on these things, and gets his hands on all sorts of demos and outtakes and does INCREDIBLE lectures on the Beatles. www.beatleslectures.com
Avatar 10:45pm
ottovonbqe:

Then there's the people who believe Paul McCartney is alive - they're the craziest.
Avatar 10:45pm
deanland:

+1 @ottovonbqe!
Avatar 10:46pm
Droll:

Why would Purdie need to exaggerate his career? And to claim credit on such mediocre playing!
Avatar 10:47pm
Dave Mandl:

@Droll: Good question. Also, come on, what's better-documented than the Beatles' recording sessions? I think someone would have seen Purdie if he'd really been there.
Avatar 10:48pm
Dave Mandl:

@ottovonbqe: I think the jury's still out on that.
Avatar 10:49pm
dk:

i've heard some guy named "richard starkey" also played on a bunch of beatles records, but i'm not buying it for a second. lots of crazy conspiracy theories around that band, i tell you.
Avatar 10:54pm
deanland:

Rumor has it that Richard Starkey married a descendant of Johannes Sebastian Bach.
Avatar 10:55pm
Droll:

dk, There's also some crackpot, Pete Best, always saying "Me too!" I'm sticking with the Walrus as best Beatles drummer.
Avatar 11:01pm
Dave Mandl:

@deanland: True She restored hotness to the Bach family.
Avatar 11:04pm
deanland:

This Ayler piece sounds like it bore a lot of influence on Chris MacGregor's Brotherhood of Breath (which can only be heard, it seems, on WFMU).
Avatar 11:05pm
deanland:

Well, Dave, JS and CPO Bach really wore out the women in their lives!
Avatar 11:06pm
dk:

welp, this ayler box set just went straight onto the lust-object list.
  11:06pm
mark Flynn:

These guys do get Ornette, and to be honest, they get his mindset without being extremely obtuse. I appreciate Ornette for what he brought to the table, but his recordings are documents that would be revaluations live but most are difficult to absorb on vinyl.
  11:16pm
trs:

fyi from this eve http://youtu.be/MA4j4TLznE0?t=3m02s
( http://luminatofestival.com/events/2013/laurie-anderson)
  11:19pm
mark Flynn:

Thought the Ayler piece was Mostly Other People DoThe Killing. Props to Ayler.
Avatar 11:35pm
deanland:

Gotta run.....back next week to take in the sounds.......
Avatar 11:36pm
Dave Mandl:

Take care, @deanland. And take care of that drumset.
Avatar 11:38pm
Droll:

I thought we agreed I was going to take care of the kit.
Avatar 11:40pm
Dave Mandl:

Well, you guys need to work that out.
  11:42pm
Marmalade Kitty:

Der Todesmonolgog was pretty twisted.. I salute the twisted set!
Avatar 11:43pm
Dave Mandl:

@MK: Glad you liked it. Der Plan. They were the best,
  11:44pm
Marmalade Kitty:

monolgog! new word?
  11:47pm
pete l:

Thanks for great adventures tonight Dave
Avatar 11:49pm
Dave Mandl:

Thanks, Pete.
Avatar 11:56pm
Droll:

Well under 2% this week, and not a hint of Mellotron. Fine job!

I'll be back to check again next week.
  Swag For Life Member 11:57pm
12539:

Thanks Dave.
Avatar 11:57pm
Dave Mandl:

Thanks, Droll. Deeply ashamed about the Mellotron oversight, but I'll make up for it next time.
Avatar 11:58pm
Dave Mandl:

Thanks, 125etc. Have a great week, everyone.
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