World of Echo with Dave Mandl:
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from February 3, 2013
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February 3, 2013
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Sun. 2/3/13 9:01pm
Dave Mandl:
Evening, boys and girls. |
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Sun. 2/3/13 9:02pm
Dave E:
Hi there Dave |
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Sun. 2/3/13 9:03pm
Dave Mandl:
Hey Dave. I hope we have ten Daves again this week. |
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Sun. 2/3/13 9:04pm
Dave E:
I'm heading to bed but will keep Dave M on in the background |
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Sun. 2/3/13 9:04pm
Dave E:
Dave is a very common name . . . my goodness there are 5 or 6 where I work. |
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Sun. 2/3/13 9:04pm
G:
I have an Uncle Dave, close as I get. |
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Sun. 2/3/13 9:05pm
Dave Mandl:
I'll try not to play anything too jarring. |
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Sun. 2/3/13 9:05pm
Dave Mandl:
(I mean, so you can go to sleep, Dave) |
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Sun. 2/3/13 9:05pm
Dave E:
What a coincidence, I am an Uncle Dave |
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Sun. 2/3/13 9:05pm
G:
Nice photo essay, I left some comments about the Bay Ridge Branch railway trench you included... |
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Sun. 2/3/13 9:05pm
Ken From Hyde Park:
Dave's not here, man! |
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Sun. 2/3/13 9:07pm
Dave Mandl:
@G: Ah, thanks. |
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Sun. 2/3/13 9:08pm
Dave E:
Zzzzzzzzzzzzzz. |
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Sun. 2/3/13 9:10pm
Dave E:
This Brown Whornet is kinda neat - what do you know about him/them? |
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Sun. 2/3/13 9:12pm
G:
www.brownwhornet.com |
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Sun. 2/3/13 9:15pm
Andrew Waterloo:
Bonsoir |
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Sun. 2/3/13 9:16pm
Dave Mandl:
Bienvenue, Andrew. |
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Sun. 2/3/13 9:31pm
Marmalade Kitty:
Hi Dave & listeners! great set! I'm watching the Superbowl. BBC coverage has no ads! |
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Sun. 2/3/13 9:33pm
glenn:
i thought the brooklyn photos were great as well. |
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Sun. 2/3/13 9:33pm
Dave Mandl:
Hey Kitty. But I thought the ads were part of the whole experience? |
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Sun. 2/3/13 9:33pm
Dave Mandl:
@glenn: Aw, thanks. I appreciate that. |
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Sun. 2/3/13 9:35pm
Dave Mandl:
Here's a Brooklyn photo I took just this morning. You can be among the first to see it: dmandl.tumblr.com... |
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Sun. 2/3/13 9:36pm
Marmalade Kitty:
49rs making a come back! It's gonna be some finish :) 28-20 |
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Sun. 2/3/13 9:36pm
glenn:
for some reason, i love the word canarsie. i don't know why, but i do.. |
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Sun. 2/3/13 9:37pm
Marmalade Kitty:
When CBS go to ads BBC goes to pundits in studio |
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Sun. 2/3/13 9:37pm
Dave Mandl:
@Kitty: It's been so long since I followed football that I'd never heard of the Ravens. |
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Sun. 2/3/13 9:37pm
G:
Yes, could actually avoid Stupor Bowl blowout status for once... Was 28-6, now 28-20. Someone woke up the 49ers. |
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Sun. 2/3/13 9:38pm
Dave Mandl:
@Glenn: Same here about Canarsie. My mother always used to mention it when I was a kid, and it took on this fantastic aura. |
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Sun. 2/3/13 9:41pm
G:
@Dave: Years ago there were the Baltimore Colts, and as B. declined as a city in winter of 84 they packed up a convoy of trucks and moved to become the Indianapolis Colts. Baltimore was dissed and pissed. Ravens were kind of a makegood in 96 when Art Modell moved the Cleveland Browns to Baltimore and they were renamed with a Poe reference. |
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Sun. 2/3/13 9:42pm
glenn:
there's a donald e. westlake book, i forget the title, in which canarsie plays a large part. |
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Sun. 2/3/13 9:43pm
glenn:
yeah, and baltimore temporarily had a canadian football league franchise and won the grey cup, as weird as that sounds. |
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Sun. 2/3/13 9:44pm
Dave Mandl:
@G: Thanks. So they were created in '96? And I only just found out this week? So much for football. |
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Sun. 2/3/13 9:44pm
Dave Mandl:
@glenn: I'll look for that book, thanks. |
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Sun. 2/3/13 9:50pm
Marmalade Kitty:
That must be very disturbing for the fan base of the clubs who shed their id |
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Sun. 2/3/13 9:50pm
G:
Exactly, Dave. If I had no relatives near Balt, *I* wouldn't know. They built the Ravens a nice new stadium and everything, probably with a fair amount of *public* money, as these things usually go, because after all so many local-election voters are football fans. |
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Sun. 2/3/13 9:53pm
glenn:
www.shelfari.com... |
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Sun. 2/3/13 9:54pm
G:
28-23, start of 4th quarter, it's actually a competitive game again. My sense was that SF wasn't as bad a team as they seemed to be playing, I kinda thought they were maybe favored to win??? |
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Sun. 2/3/13 9:55pm
Ike:
Hello all! Nice Gravesend photo, Dave. |
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Sun. 2/3/13 9:58pm
G:
31-23, Balt is trying to slow that SF momentum... |
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Sun. 2/3/13 9:59pm
Andrew Waterloo:
Now that I know who's playing in the Superbowl... |
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Sun. 2/3/13 10:01pm
Ike:
Years ago, weren't all of the Stupor Bowls boring blowouts? Is it stupid of me to say that I find the recent trend of exciting SB games to be just sliiiiiiightly suspicious? Is there a way to rig the games to even it up a bit? Of course, I'm biased because I think concussion-ball is dumb and borderline psychotic. |
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Sun. 2/3/13 10:02pm
Dave Mandl:
@Glenn: Thanks for the book info. |
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Sun. 2/3/13 10:02pm
Dave Mandl:
Hey Ike. Thanks. |
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Sun. 2/3/13 10:04pm
Cubicle Carl:
@Ike Exactly. That's why we're listening to World of Echo on Superbowl night. |
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Sun. 2/3/13 10:06pm
G:
Yes, Ike,if interested check the mostly big blowouts 1984-97 vs. more recent years: en.wikipedia.org... |
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Sun. 2/3/13 10:07pm
glenn:
now, if it was a world series night, that's a different story. |
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Sun. 2/3/13 10:07pm
G:
are you waiting for toronto to get back in it, glenn? :P |
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Sun. 2/3/13 10:07pm
tomB:
Hey I thought I was the only one with the My Cat Is Dead CD. and wasn't that the voice of Eric Mingus? |
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Sun. 2/3/13 10:11pm
Dave Mandl:
@tomB: Yes, Eric Mingus is on that CD. Nice call. |
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Sun. 2/3/13 10:12pm
glenn:
there gonna be pretty good this year, if the creeks don't rise and the good lord's willin' |
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Sun. 2/3/13 10:12pm
glenn:
sorry. they're. |
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Sun. 2/3/13 10:12pm
G:
could be, but dont go overboard and hold your breath... |
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Sun. 2/3/13 10:15pm
Andrew Waterloo:
The Superbowl is proof that there is no god. |
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Sun. 2/3/13 10:17pm
G:
@glenn: Vegas has Jays at 15-2 to take the Series, best odds of any team right at the moment. |
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Sun. 2/3/13 10:17pm
glenn:
believe me, as a maple leafs fan, i know not to go overboard. |
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Sun. 2/3/13 10:18pm
Andrew Waterloo:
as a leaf fan you should know that you shouldn't even be out on deck |
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Sun. 2/3/13 10:19pm
Andrew Waterloo:
You may, however, look at the port hole once in awhile |
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Sun. 2/3/13 10:19pm
glenn:
that's true, and funny. |
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Sun. 2/3/13 10:20pm
G:
Balt 31 SF 29 barely over 5 minutes, an actual game. |
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Sun. 2/3/13 10:22pm
G:
34-29, barely 4 mins left, SF really needs to score now if they want the game, duh |
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Sun. 2/3/13 10:22pm
12539:
Dave M, are you going to try some telepathy with Matmos? | |
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Sun. 2/3/13 10:23pm
Dave Mandl:
@12539: Anything's possible. I'll give it a shot if they want me to. |
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Sun. 2/3/13 10:23pm
George of Troy:
Evening, Dave. Excited to hear that Matmos will be on the show. |
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Sun. 2/3/13 10:24pm
Dave Mandl:
Hey George. Yeah, me too. |
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Sun. 2/3/13 10:29pm
G:
Great Crim. choice from a great album SF is 2nd and goal to go, 2 minutes left |
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Sun. 2/3/13 10:31pm
G:
@Ike 10:01 nfl.com site just said each of the last four super bowls has had a game-winning scoring drive in the 4th quarter. amazing coincidence... |
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Sun. 2/3/13 10:35pm
Droll:
[short break from lurking in kitchen] iTunes tells me its been 2 years 3 months since I last listened to that KC album. Thanks for the reminder -- terrible oversight on my part. Red also just got scheduled. [back to kitchen lurking] |
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Sun. 2/3/13 10:36pm
G:
Baltimore held them. SF had first and goal at about 6, and then lost the ball on downs without scoring. close but no cigar, guys |
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Sun. 2/3/13 10:46pm
Ken From Hyde Park:
Harbaugh 1, Harbaugh 0 |
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Sun. 2/3/13 10:46pm
G:
34-31, final. Baltimore took a deliberate 2-point safety to kill the clock down to 4 seconds and give SF no chance to score again |
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Sun. 2/3/13 10:51pm
G:
Want noise? Here's a humungo solar radiation burst frying the living crap out of some shortwave transmission today. It's from a large sunspot that is turning toward the earth this week -- spaceweather.com... |
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Sun. 2/3/13 10:54pm
Ken From Hyde Park:
So, is WFMU the official Free Form Radio Station of Super Bowl XLVIII? |
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Sun. 2/3/13 10:55pm
G:
@Ken: not any more :) |
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Sun. 2/3/13 11:02pm
G:
ether/or net |
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Sun. 2/3/13 11:02pm
George of Troy:
Coincidentally, I discovered today that Jozef Van Wissem (who played on a previous track) also played on an M.B. record from a few years ago called Das Platinzeitalter that I like quite a bit. |
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Sun. 2/3/13 11:06pm
12539:
Dave M, a playlist search shows you've actually played from a few other Cale albums. Does this count towards the 2% rock n roll? | |
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Sun. 2/3/13 11:08pm
Dave Mandl:
Have I? Damn the internet. I can't remember playing anything but Paris 1919, but the playlist search doesn't lie. |
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Sun. 2/3/13 11:10pm
G:
Quite the sotaque carioca (rio de janeiro accent) on display here |
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Sun. 2/3/13 11:11pm
12539:
Vintage Violence, Eat/Kiss, HoboSapiens...(nice Vinicius track here). | |
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Sun. 2/3/13 11:13pm
Dave Mandl:
@12539: Thanks. Glad I've actually played all those Cale records, but seriously I always want to play Paris 1919. |
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Sun. 2/3/13 11:17pm
G:
looped cello |
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Sun. 2/3/13 11:25pm
braveness23:
This Simone White is pretty. I've never listened to WFMU in the evening, just during M-F 8-5. Well done! I'll be listening in the evenings more often. |
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Sun. 2/3/13 11:26pm
Droll:
Ethernet is a pedestrian name depending on where you are on in the technology curve. Back in my day a band could get by with just "Wire". Collector Alert: Sony is retiring MiniDisc in March! |
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Sun. 2/3/13 11:27pm
braveness23:
I'm going to name my band The OSI Model |
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Sun. 2/3/13 11:29pm
Dave Mandl:
@braveness23: Great. Welcome to the evening. |
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Sun. 2/3/13 11:30pm
Dave Mandl:
@Droll: I know. But it's the name of a networking protocol. An odd choice, but maybe that's a good thing. |
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Sun. 2/3/13 11:30pm
Dave Mandl:
Naturally I've got a bunch of things on MiniDisc. I actually liked that technology. I used to record my shows on MD. |
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Sun. 2/3/13 11:37pm
Droll:
HotChip also has a dubious band name. It's a fab lot term and a conference name. Always made me squirm. I hated cassette and switched to MD as soon as it became available in 92-93. I always admired the clever pricing that blanks cost as much as recorded MDs. Last summer I ripped all my MDs to WAVs, rediscovering lots of lost gems, then took the MD player down the the electronics recycler. |
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Sun. 2/3/13 11:40pm
braveness23:
Heh, I dabbled in alternate media. Wish I could borrow a DAT player for a weekend to get some treasures off of it. |
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Sun. 2/3/13 11:42pm
Pete from Boston (and NJ):
On last week's Seven Second Delay, after the show's premise was exhausted 35 minutes in, it changed to an "oldest regularly used electronic technology you own" show. One guy called and said he had a working DCC (digital compact cassette) player! Remember those? MiniDisc vs. DCC was supposed to be the next VHS vs. Beta, except consumers ignored both. 33 minutes, I believe, was the caller's estimation of the time it took for them to become obsolete. |
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Sun. 2/3/13 11:43pm
braveness23:
Today I choose whatever medium is most likely to be playable when I'm 70. If you can't listen to MP3's or look at PDF's in 2050 then it probably means the world has blown up. |
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Sun. 2/3/13 11:45pm
Andrew Waterloo:
Economist had a short comment in their last issue which argued that the only technologies that truly die are digital. Basically, we still have vinyl, we still have cassette, but we don't have DAT, or MiniDisc etc. |
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Sun. 2/3/13 11:45pm
Pete from Boston (and NJ):
braveness23, you mean folk tradition, in other words -- if you can perform it and pass it on, it's pretty much the only guarantee it'll still be around. |
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Sun. 2/3/13 11:46pm
braveness23:
But we do have some file formats that seem to be enduring pretty well. |
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Sun. 2/3/13 11:49pm
Andrew Waterloo:
@B23, true, but how many have survived because incremental updates that couldn't have happened in the strictly hardware world. |
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Sun. 2/3/13 11:49pm
Droll:
AW, Not true: Lots of analog formats are gone -- try and find an 8-track player. Digital stuff is now advanced enough that machine simulators are fast enough to run old programs in a virtual machine. We can run Atari and Colecovision games today in our browsers. And we'll eventually run browsers emulating 8-bit games in neural mind-link devices. |
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Sun. 2/3/13 11:52pm
Ike:
I often ponder: Will that neural mind-link device of the future allow me to upload my consciousness elsewhere? Should we want to do that? |
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Sun. 2/3/13 11:52pm
Andrew Waterloo:
@Droll, the point is the hardware is gone. The technology changed from a machine that reads a program from a card, to software that reads a file. |
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Sun. 2/3/13 11:54pm
12539:
Viva la radio! | |
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Sun. 2/3/13 11:56pm
braveness23:
In yours and my lifetimes (and our childrens) I'll bet we never own a digital device that doesn't know what an MP3, PDF and JPG are. Just sayin'. We are rapidly hitting the point where compression isn't necessary but these lossy formats are still pretty damned acceptable. Rarely do I need ot look at a picture and be assured that the 45th thousand pixel from the left 89 million rows down is the precise color it was in real life. |
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Sun. 2/3/13 11:57pm
12539:
..and all its digital extensions. Nice show, Dave. | |
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Sun. 2/3/13 11:59pm
Dave Mandl:
Thanks, everyone. Have a great week. |
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Mon. 2/4/13 12:00am
Droll:
I already have .ppt and .doc files I can't read. See y'inz next week (or 3 minutes) |
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Mon. 2/4/13 12:00am
G:
braveness: as you say, mp3 is lossy, and i bet there will be a move to a non-lossy audio format as storage cost keeps coming down, with mp3s being able to be played on equipment that plays the new non-lossy format as it takes over. i see many audiophile and into-music types who view mp3 as temporary. remember when CDs were going to last "virtually forever"? |
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