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Options January 31, 2013: The Dusty Show - Gun Violence Episode

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Artist Track Album Label Year Format Comments Approx. start time
 
Initial words
 
Gunz
 
Nicolas and Ben from France!
  I probably shouldn't mention this but, (does the comma come before or after the but?) I had a lot of micro-cassette issues on this show, hence, a lot of editing and enough-garble-that-it-bothers-me moments that it approached issuehood. Accepting the state of it, and not wanting to lose the interviews I had done, I decided to press on. I was hoping the evident sound-fatigue and flutterations weren't the fault of my (secret brand) micro-cassette recorder. They are discontinued now and are hard to find. I think it is the specific micro-cassette I was using. I have three of them and they are very old. They've worked in Paris, LA, Milwaukee, New York, Dubuque ... and I still use them. Sentimental, I suppose. I have taped-over so many interviews and moments, all on these three little crappy tapes. Sadly the specific one I employed for this Dusty may have finally acquired some final internal failures in there in the gears and pinions. Two mostly-functional left, though. That's good news. I could buy new micro-cassette tapes, but I'll bet the quality has gone further out the window, and the treble response of the new ones is worse than ever. In truth it's the treble response of my old ears which has worsened, from listening to all these hiss-riddled endeavors.
 
What do we need to do about guns?
 
Part of America
Jimmy Hendrix  Machine Gun   Options Band of Gypsys  Capitol  1970  LP  Recorded live at the Fillmore East in NYC. 69-70   
 
Frank Reynolds of ABC reports on the shooting of President Reagan.
 
Do You Like America?
 
Everybody's Free in New York
 
Nic and Ben's Farewell Message
 
French-Speaking!
The Doors  Riders on the Storm   Options Weird Scenes Inside The Goldmine  Elektra  1972  LP  Compilation LP. Open the Doors.   
 
President Clinton Speaks About the Columbine Shootings (1999) in a White House Press Conference.
 
An Interview with Sharon
 
Metal-Detectors ... Everywhere
Judas Priest  Breaking The Law   Options British Steel  Columbia   1980  LP  Rescue audio footage from the Littleton theatre shootings courtesy of FOX 31 - Denver   
 
Are We Crazier Than We Used To Be?
Cheech and Chong  Earache my Eye   Options Wedding Album  Ode  1974  LP     
 
Baring Their Arms
Mahavishnu Orchestra  Resolution   Options Birds Of Fire  Columbia   1973  LP  Long building track behind the conclusion of Sharon's interview.   
 
Walter Cronkite Reporting on the Shooting of Rev. Martin Luther King (CBS)
Dion  Abraham, Martin and John   Options WFIL-FM - The Nicest Music, Vol. 1      LP     
The Mercury Storytellers  Excerpt   Options The Life Story of George Washington / The Life Story of Abraham Lincoln  Mercury  ? '60's?  LP  Abe Lincoln sample source. Not actually his voice,   
 
John Kennedy addresses a crow at Rice University in Houston, 1962. We choose to go to the moon and do the other thing.
 
Rev, Martin Luther King Excerpt from his I have a Dream Speech - 1963
Unknown  Calling Instructions With Actual Rabbit Squeals   Options Fox, Coyote, Cat  Burnham Bros.  ? old  7"  Burnham Bros. must have been a sporting goods concern. This promotional "7 comes from Marble Falls, TX. I had to spin it with my finger manually because it's recorded at 78rpm, which my turntable couldn't accomodate.   
 
Woman Speaks About Hunting Rights
 
NRA VP Wayne LaPierre - Post-Connecticut Shootings (PBS)
 
1776! Radio Host Alex Jones on Piers Morgan - CNN - Jan '12
Hank Williams, Jr.  A Country Boy Can Survive   Options Greatest Hits  Elektra/Curb  1982  LP     
 
An Interview with Sevario outside of MSG
 
Deer Tommy-Gun
 
Weird Slippery Slope
 
Random Stuff
 
Mattel Thunderburp TV Ad - '60's
John Lennon  Nobody Told Me   Options Milk and Honey  Polydor  1984  LP     
 
Ringo speaks to Barbara Walters in 1981 - ABC
 
Yoko Speaks about John at an Exposition: John Lennon: The New York Years - 2009 - AP
 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexis_de_Tocqueville
 
A .22 Will Do
 
What's Making Us So Violent These Days?
Cypress Hill  We Ain't Goin' Out Like That (Radio Edit)   Options   Ruffhouse  1993  12"     
 
MTV News Reports on the Death of Tupac Shakur - 9/13/96
 
An Interview with Charlie Shaw . Area Musician
 
A Southern Liberal
 
Make Sure It's Going
Yes  The Wurm   Options The Yes Album  Atlantic  1972-3?  LP  The long meandering building prog thing that goes on and on. Luvit.   
 
Former Congresswoman, Gabrielle Giffords Recites the Pledge of Allegiance at the 2012 Democratic National Convention
 
More
 
Sen. Rand Paul (TP-KY) Speaks on Obama and Gun Rights (CBN)
 
Still More
 
Rush Limbaugh from his Popular Radio Program
Iggy Pop  Neighborhood Threat   Options Lust For Life  RCA  1977  LP  Produced by Bowie   
 
An Optimist
Lynryd Skynyrd  Saturday Night Special   Options Nuthin' Fancy  MCA  1974  MP3     
 
Charlie's Gigs
 
Brett Favre (Ex-Green Bay Packer QB) Remington Rifle TV Ad (2009)
The Realistics  Eighteen With a Bullet   Options Eighteen With a Bullet  Columbia Special Products  '70's  LP  The Realistics sing popular hits of the day on this LP. This is the only doo-wop entry, which I picked for its topical pertinance.   
 
Sevario and Unidentified Woman Discussing Gun Stuff Outside MSG
  Often, about this point in a show, the production gimmicks lessen and the interviews stretch-out. It's usually because I've run out of time and I have to finish the last twenty minutes of an episode in like, an hour. It's always frustrating, as I enjoy editing the heck out of things.
 
Man Is Lost
 
The Hardest Gambino
Gown   Taylor's Jam   Options For The Maples  Three-Lobed  2006?  LP  Long jam in the background   
Alice Cooper  Desperado   Options Killer  Warner Bros.  1972  LP  Always good.   
 
The Tape Turn
Cy Coleman  Reverie In Topaz   Options The Ages of Rock  MGM    LP     
 
Welcome Back.
 
Thoughts on Guns
 
Eat That Thing
 
Terrible
 
Good People
Kiss  Love Gun   Options Love Gun  Casablanca  1977  LP  Criss!

From Wikipedia: Before Love Gun was completed, a Gallup poll indicated that Kiss was the most popular band in the US, beating Aerosmith, Led Zeppelin and the Eagles. 

 
 
An Interview with Deli-Owner, Muhammed from my Block.
The Carpenters  Bless the Beasts and The Children   Options   A&M  1971  MP3  Wiki: It was nominated for a 1972 Academy Award for Best Song, but it lost to Isaac Hayes' "Theme from Shaft". From the movie, starring Billy Mumy.   
Not Listed  Side Two - Track Four   Options Classic Beats and Breaks Volume Four  Scarface  1995  LP  Produced by Paris   
 
Freestyle Thing
  Thanks for listening to this episode of The Dusty Show. I hope you found it worthwhile. Of course, gun violence is a heavy topic and, if ever I seemed flippant or insensitive in my words or in the music, it was not intended. We're working our way through lots of issues right now, but we'll see it through.

Enjoyed getting out and interviewing people this past week. It had been a while. I was a little rusty. A little ... Dusty.

Starting to assemble CC5 and other good things for marathon. Should be fun.

Well, that's it. These playlists take a long time to do. Time to go play old Applejack. Night. Always remember. dusty@wfmu.org


Listener comments!

Avatar    Thu. 1/31/13 6:03pm kat330:

Hi, Clay!
  Thu. 1/31/13 6:03pm Clay Pigeon:

Hello!
Avatar    Thu. 1/31/13 6:03pm kat330:

Not "Hey, Joe"?
  Thu. 1/31/13 6:03pm Clay Pigeon:

Hi kat!
Avatar Thu. 1/31/13 6:04pm sFrances from VA:

Hey all! I will say that my only experience with guns was being held up at gunpoint while managing a Waldenbooks of all things! It gave me the vapors.
Avatar    Thu. 1/31/13 6:04pm kat330:

We're postponing dinner tonight just to have full attention at keyboards and at the Squeezebox.
Avatar    Thu. 1/31/13 6:04pm Philo Gristle:

Greets, Clay!
Avatar    Thu. 1/31/13 6:04pm Cecile:

this is great.
Isley Brothers did a nutso cover of this - a medley with "Ohio"!

Sfrances, that's horrible!
  Thu. 1/31/13 6:05pm Clay Pigeon:

Watch those vapors, Frances!
  Thu. 1/31/13 6:05pm Night Al:

Ban all guns and all weapons of war. Peace and love.
  Thu. 1/31/13 6:05pm Fredericks:

The vapors were a type of hysteria that women were said to experience. The symptoms of the vapors included anxiety, bloating...
Avatar    Thu. 1/31/13 6:05pm Matt from Springfield:

A blues song "Machine Gun" .. that's actually about a gun! Who knew? :)

Hi Clay and Pidgers!
  Thu. 1/31/13 6:05pm Clay Pigeon:

Hi Philo!
Avatar    Thu. 1/31/13 6:05pm kat330:

@Frances: Oooh, yikes. I've been very lucky that the only guns I've been within a few feet of were my dad's, out hunting or target shooting (which I did, too, but with an airgun).
Avatar Thu. 1/31/13 6:06pm Pine:

yo yo
Avatar    Thu. 1/31/13 6:06pm Matt from Springfield:

@Fredericks: "Hysteria" comes from the Greek for "womb", because that's where hysteria comes from. Except when it's from the Moon, "lunacy".
Avatar Thu. 1/31/13 6:07pm Andrew Waterloo:

Bonsoir mes amis.
  Thu. 1/31/13 6:07pm Clay Pigeon:

Saturnine. What's that mean, Fredericks?
Avatar    Thu. 1/31/13 6:07pm Philo Gristle:

Wasn't heroin what Bayer invented as a medication for "hysteria?"
Avatar    Thu. 1/31/13 6:07pm Matt from Springfield:

@Frances: Wow! Was that in VA or somewhere else? That actually makes TWO Virginians I know who were held at gunpoint in their retail job. During the 80s for you?
Avatar Thu. 1/31/13 6:08pm sFrances from VA:

the upside is I learned how calm I can be in a sketchy situation.
I'd love to try target practice sometime, but I feel better sticking with darts. ;) I'm totally fine with people hunting for food. But no one needs machine guns/assault rifles, and most people overlook the suicide factor when discussing handgun violence (I lost a friend that way)
Avatar Thu. 1/31/13 6:09pm Pine:

Love that creepy movie "Through a Glass Darkly".
Avatar Thu. 1/31/13 6:09pm sFrances from VA:

Enough! Sorry, I didn't mean to sound like such a bummer! Raising my pint of Arrogant Bastard Ale, cheers!!
Avatar    Thu. 1/31/13 6:09pm kat330:

@Matt: there's a 2011 film with that title I really want to see. Involves the introduction of the vibrator.
Avatar Thu. 1/31/13 6:10pm sFrances from VA:

@Matt: It was on Lakeshore Ave in Oakland,CA /the 90s.
Avatar    Thu. 1/31/13 6:10pm Philo Gristle:

I always liked the Abbie Hoffman suggestion that you have to eat what you kill. No wars. But can't complain about hunting long as I eat burgers.
Avatar Thu. 1/31/13 6:11pm sFrances from VA:

If gun talk gets overwhelming, just look at Panzy & her tongue. www.flickr.com...
  Thu. 1/31/13 6:11pm Night Al:

What's more sane.. everyone carrying a gun or nobody carrying a gun?
Avatar Thu. 1/31/13 6:11pm Timbrocks:

Have a great show Clay!
Avatar    Thu. 1/31/13 6:11pm Carmichael:

Breaking the law!! Breaking the Law!! Yo Clay!!
Avatar    Thu. 1/31/13 6:11pm dale:

hudson valley in da house. 90.1 keeps dropping out tho...
Avatar    Thu. 1/31/13 6:11pm kat330:

Oh, that's precious, sF!
Avatar    Thu. 1/31/13 6:12pm Matt from Springfield:

She lives in a world of "absolute"s, doesn't she? ;)

@kat: "Machine Gun" you mean?
@Frances: Ah, Oakland. The guy I knew worked at the ABC (liquor) store that used to be in Brookfield Plaza, downtown Springfield around '88. I would believe that now, but he said there was virtually no crime there at the time!
Avatar    Thu. 1/31/13 6:12pm Cecile:

the kitteh!
  Thu. 1/31/13 6:12pm Clay Pigeon:

TY timb! Yo Carm and Dale. Any snow up there, Dale?
Avatar    Thu. 1/31/13 6:12pm Cecile:

Breaking the law!
Avatar Thu. 1/31/13 6:12pm Timbrocks:

Judas Priest makes even the theater shooting sound exciting.
Avatar    Thu. 1/31/13 6:13pm kat330:

@Timbrocks: Mollusk headgear! :)
Avatar    Thu. 1/31/13 6:13pm Matt from Springfield:

I CAN HAZ QUTE XPRESHUN?
  Thu. 1/31/13 6:13pm Clay Pigeon:

Hi Cecile! Stick around.
Avatar    Thu. 1/31/13 6:13pm Matt from Springfield:

@dale: How about 91.9? Is that range near you?
  Thu. 1/31/13 6:14pm Night Al:

There's too many insane and angry people to allow them to carry guns.
Avatar Thu. 1/31/13 6:14pm the glowing one:

it's so crazy to hear that people's answer to violence is more violence
Avatar Thu. 1/31/13 6:14pm sFrances from VA:

@Kat & Cecile: I know Panzy has her WFMU fans. ;)
@Matt: Yeah, Brookfield used to be just fine in the 80s, early 80/81 that's where I'd catch the bus to the Metro/Pentagon to get in to DC for punk shows. You're right, it is sketchy now.
Avatar    Thu. 1/31/13 6:14pm Matt from Springfield:

Slaphappy sound FX tonight, Clay!
Avatar    Thu. 1/31/13 6:14pm Carmichael:

Clay, you need to visit the local avatar store.
Avatar Thu. 1/31/13 6:14pm Timbrocks:

@kat That's supposed to be a Florida Gator but it looks more like a frog. Gift from a friend.
Avatar Thu. 1/31/13 6:14pm Andrew Waterloo:

I think American's biggest gun problem is that the general approach to violence is to be the one who is better at violence.
Avatar    Thu. 1/31/13 6:15pm Cecile:

Hmmmm.

gotta go.
Avatar    Thu. 1/31/13 6:15pm kat330:

@Matt: Heh! That would be an interesting circuit getting from machine guns to vibrators! :) No, "Hysteria," with Gyllenhaal, Rupert Everett -- supposedly just a RomCom, but sounds "hysterical." :)
Avatar Thu. 1/31/13 6:15pm sFrances from VA:

Bare arms: www.flickr.com...
;)
Avatar    Thu. 1/31/13 6:15pm dale:

it all melted clay. chance of a bit here and there but not enough to snowshoe or x country ski or snowmobile.

matt - i don't get that signal and glad i don't - it would block me getting wnti in hackettstown nj
Avatar Thu. 1/31/13 6:15pm sFrances from VA:

Have a good one Cecile!
Avatar    Thu. 1/31/13 6:16pm Carmichael:

Guess Who's "Raindance".
  Thu. 1/31/13 6:16pm moose:

ahoy
listening on the sparkling since the storm 91.1
  Thu. 1/31/13 6:16pm Clay Pigeon:

Got a few runs in at Windham last weekend, Dale.
Avatar    Thu. 1/31/13 6:16pm Matt from Springfield:

There you go announcer: apostle of nonviolence violently shot to death...
Avatar Thu. 1/31/13 6:16pm Timbrocks:

Gun control is misguided. The real problems that need to be addressed are big pharma, mental health and the drug war. Address those problems and watch gun violence pretty much end in this country.
  Thu. 1/31/13 6:16pm Night Al:

When you're in the military, you have to turn your gun in to the base armory at the end of the day.
Avatar    Thu. 1/31/13 6:17pm Matt from Springfield:

Obama swore in this time on Abraham's Bible, on top of Martin's! 2 outta 3 ain't bad!
Avatar    Thu. 1/31/13 6:17pm Matt from Springfield:

For this song, and a few others, I enjoy saying "This is a nice song, but I prefer the original by Leonard Nimoy better." ;D
Avatar    Thu. 1/31/13 6:18pm dale:

i don't downhill. i know i'd die.
  Thu. 1/31/13 6:18pm Clay Pigeon:

Mattel. Nimoy!
Avatar    Thu. 1/31/13 6:18pm Matt from Springfield:

@Timb: Mental health is the BIG ONE. There's shocking zero infrastructure for helping the mentally disturbed.
Avatar    Thu. 1/31/13 6:19pm kat330:

As per usual, Jon Stewart's and Stephen Colbert's segments on gun legislation get right to the heart of the matter by seeing the absurdism of POVs. Great and incisive perspectives (that I'll be sorry to lose when our Hulu runs out soon).
  Thu. 1/31/13 6:19pm moose:

most of the same people against gun control seem to be also against spending any money on social services
Avatar Thu. 1/31/13 6:20pm Andrew Waterloo:

But, not everybody shooting or getting shot is mentally ill. Much of the gun problem is a lack of safety and accountability. It says a lot that 5 people were shot going to gun events on gun appreciation day.
Avatar Thu. 1/31/13 6:21pm Timbrocks:

I'd prefer that Obama swear on the Constitution if anything.
Avatar    Thu. 1/31/13 6:21pm Matt from Springfield:

@Frances 6:14: But it also has fantastic ethnic eateries of every stripe nowadays - especially Thai! Just don't hang around there after the stores close..
Avatar Thu. 1/31/13 6:21pm Andrew Waterloo:

As someone who has been around rifles all I can say that it is absolutely stupid and negligent to hand someone a loaded weapon. Most gun deaths are stupid accidents that wouldn't have happened with the faintest amount of responsibility.
Avatar Thu. 1/31/13 6:21pm sFrances from VA:

There's no reason why we can't have gun regulation *and* address mental health issues more vigorously as well as the drug war & big pharma....but one thing that would've really helped mental health issues is universal health care/single payer affordable options.
Avatar    Thu. 1/31/13 6:22pm kat330:

The domestic harm or death through gun violence is something concerning me the most. Much goes unreported or logged in as "accidents."
  Thu. 1/31/13 6:22pm Night Al:

Screw hunters! The only citizens that should be allowed to carry guns are trained law enforcement.
Avatar Thu. 1/31/13 6:22pm Timbrocks:

I'm generally a very liberal-minded person, but on this issue, I'm very pro-gun. The attention put on gun control is very misguided.
Avatar    Thu. 1/31/13 6:22pm Matt from Springfield:

@Timb: All POTUSs swear "to protect and defend the Constitution" though. Course not all of them *lived up to* that.
Avatar Thu. 1/31/13 6:23pm Timbrocks:

@Night Al you'd prefer that only the government have guns? That should be everyone's worst nightmare.
  Thu. 1/31/13 6:23pm Fredericks:

Saturnine? + Sad , gloomy.

@Matt: Yes!
Avatar Thu. 1/31/13 6:23pm Pine:

I'm with Jesse Ventura on this one
Avatar Thu. 1/31/13 6:24pm Timbrocks:

They swear to but I doubt that most of them have even read the Constitution, much less defend it.
  Thu. 1/31/13 6:24pm Clay Pigeon:

I hear a ground issue. Cats been in the wires again.
  Thu. 1/31/13 6:24pm Night Al:

The American masses are moronic asses. They should not be allowed to own weapons.
Avatar    Thu. 1/31/13 6:24pm Matt from Springfield:

@Andrew: Then again, that's why we have the "Darwin Awards"! Many have done just that. Sadly one of those idiots killed his 7 year old son instead, while stepping into his pickup carrying a loaded gun...
Avatar Thu. 1/31/13 6:25pm Timbrocks:

@Clay sounds OK on this end.
Avatar    Thu. 1/31/13 6:25pm Matt from Springfield:

I'm "Mattel ThunderBURP"! :)
  Thu. 1/31/13 6:25pm moose:

if I choose not to have a gun and only the goverment has guns and for some reason they decide to go around shooting up the citizenry do I deserve to die?
Avatar    Thu. 1/31/13 6:26pm dale:

we don't need a well regulated militia - we have a massive taxpayer funded army. and navy. and air force. and marine corps.
Avatar Thu. 1/31/13 6:26pm Andrew Waterloo:

@Matt the statistics are overwhelming
  Thu. 1/31/13 6:26pm ?:

Love the Lennon track!
Avatar    Thu. 1/31/13 6:26pm Matt from Springfield:

YES YES YES!!!! "Nobody Told Me"! Excellent posthumous release from John L.
And, one of the few chord riffs I can play straight through (I play single notes on guitar, but my fingers find chords difficult).
  Thu. 1/31/13 6:26pm Night Al:

@Night Al you'd prefer that only the government have guns? You better believe it! The only citizens that should be allowed to carry guns are trained law enforcement. If the government wants to kill you, your personal weaponry isn't going to stop them.
Avatar    Thu. 1/31/13 6:27pm Matt from Springfield:

@Night Al: "The American masses are moronic asses" -- GNFA Punk Album, if it isn't one already!
Avatar    Thu. 1/31/13 6:27pm kat330:

@Timbrocks: Right to bear arms had a totally different context when that was written. The Constitution is a living document that changes as circumstances change through the years. The Founding Fathers would be so dismayed the way their careful work is being so misused today.
Avatar Thu. 1/31/13 6:27pm Andrew Waterloo:

I think you should be able to buy a gun. But, I like what we have in Canada. You have to get a fire arms safety certificate before you can take ownership of one. If you want a machine-gun fine, as long as you have some impressive paperwork that backs you up.
Avatar    Thu. 1/31/13 6:28pm Carmichael:

I have to disagree with you, Timbrocks. I have no problem with individual gun ownership (via registration and background check), but there are too many people people storing massive amounts of weapons and ammo, starting up militias, and basically stockpiling either because they "can" or because they're fearful of an apocalypse event. There are too many of those people, and they seem to be increasing.
Avatar Thu. 1/31/13 6:28pm sFrances from VA:

@NightAl @6:26, so true. In general, I think you're right on.
  Thu. 1/31/13 6:28pm ?:

Harry Nilsson became a fervent gun control advocate after John was shot.
Avatar    Thu. 1/31/13 6:28pm Matt from Springfield:

@Andrew: I like that too! You have to take the training, and the Mounties gotta check you off!
  Thu. 1/31/13 6:28pm Night Al:

Do you really believe that if the govenment of America wants to sudue it's citizens that a group of armed civilians is going to ban together and battle them? Your dilusional.
  Thu. 1/31/13 6:29pm moose:

of course if all gun owners were members of a 'well regulated (i assume by the government?) militia' i guess that's ok
Avatar Thu. 1/31/13 6:29pm sFrances from VA:

@Andrew, it seems that statistically speaking: Canada has, per capita even more guns than the US yet nowhere near the murder/fatality ratio. So it seems like y'all's method of regulating is working.
Avatar    Thu. 1/31/13 6:30pm Matt from Springfield:

This is a great, lively episode! Unfortunately I have to cut it off halfway--need to make my "Plan 9" showtime! I watched it again on my computer to "study" it alone, now I'll watch it with all the riffin' :)

Have a great night, everyone! Always Remember...to listen to Archives!
Avatar Thu. 1/31/13 6:30pm Andrew Waterloo:

I don't understand why well regulated doesn't include regulating who is a member, and what guns they use.
Avatar Thu. 1/31/13 6:30pm sFrances from VA:

Have a great night, Matt!
Avatar Thu. 1/31/13 6:31pm Timbrocks:

@kat330 certianly, and you'll get no argument from me that the Constitution needs to be amended from time to time, but until you amend it, you need to uphold it. The 13th amendment outlawed slavery, for example. Don't be so willing to give all of your rights away to the government.
Avatar    Thu. 1/31/13 6:31pm kat330:

Bye, Matt! Enjoy! :)
  Thu. 1/31/13 6:31pm Clay Pigeon:

Take it easy, Matt!
Avatar Thu. 1/31/13 6:31pm Andrew Waterloo:

The biggest issue is clip size. That was the biggest failing of the last assault rifle ban.
Avatar    Thu. 1/31/13 6:31pm Philo Gristle:

Enjoy, Matt!
Avatar    Thu. 1/31/13 6:31pm Matt from Springfield:

Thanks people! See you on the flip!
Avatar    Thu. 1/31/13 6:32pm dale:

i was doing renovation work for a couple upstate and they were into stockpiling canned goods and weapons and ammunition, had me and a friend install huge plastic tanks for potable water, generators, etc. every day a fedex truck would come with a couple of boxes and they were just storing up bullets. they were - are - nuts.
  Thu. 1/31/13 6:32pm Marmalade Kitty:

Pigeon! Let go flocks of them!! :)
Avatar Thu. 1/31/13 6:32pm Andrew Waterloo:

yes. I must go too
Avatar Thu. 1/31/13 6:33pm sFrances from VA:

@Dale: Holy s&*t. Did you have a chance to have any conversations w/them to find out why they were so fearful? Doomsday Preppers!
  Thu. 1/31/13 6:33pm Clay Pigeon:

Bye Andrew! Hi Marmalade Kitty!
Avatar Thu. 1/31/13 6:33pm sFrances from VA:

@Andrew: have a good 'un!
Avatar    Thu. 1/31/13 6:34pm Philo Gristle:

Later, Andrew!
  Thu. 1/31/13 6:34pm ?:

Most folk are loose cannon fodder hence the need for regulation. Homicide is the end of many means. Guns make it easier.
Avatar    Thu. 1/31/13 6:34pm kat330:

@Timbrocks: But Obama's only asking common sense regulations. WHY do you think individuals need automatic weapons? There's no need to amend the Constitution for regulating multi-rounds of ammunition and killing machines? Why are you opposed to these sensible changes and, more importantly, why do you think doing so goes against what the Founding Fathers intended by "The Right to Bear Arms"?
  Thu. 1/31/13 6:34pm Fredericks:

@Dale: You left out the National Guard.
Avatar    Thu. 1/31/13 6:34pm Philo Gristle:

Great Iggy toon. Hear about such nutters at the place I work.
Avatar Thu. 1/31/13 6:35pm sFrances from VA:

Yay!! IGGY!!!!
Avatar    Thu. 1/31/13 6:35pm kat330:

Bye, Andrew! Have a Daffy good night!
  Thu. 1/31/13 6:35pm ?:

I think Bowie had a hand in it too...
Avatar Thu. 1/31/13 6:35pm Green Mountain Man Mark:

armed bears in our schools should work.
Avatar Thu. 1/31/13 6:35pm sFrances from VA:

Hey Ms M Kitty!!
  Thu. 1/31/13 6:35pm Night Al:

You gun toting assholes need to relenquish your weapons so we can throw your moronic asses in all the FEMA camps we've built for you. Here we come morons! Shoot straight!
  Thu. 1/31/13 6:36pm Fredericks:

I miss Matt, already.
Avatar    Thu. 1/31/13 6:36pm dale:

these ladies (yes, ladies) believed the grid will go down, believed the mayan or incan calendar stuff etc. sad thing is they have more money than sense which is a very dangerous thing
  Thu. 1/31/13 6:37pm ?:

Great Skynyrd tune!
  Thu. 1/31/13 6:37pm Clay Pigeon:

Me too, Fredericks. Good man.
Avatar    Thu. 1/31/13 6:37pm kat330:

@Dale: I'm surprised they didn't believe zombies were coming to eat their brains.
  Thu. 1/31/13 6:38pm Fredericks:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xlEb3Zxhuwg
Avatar Thu. 1/31/13 6:40pm sFrances from VA:

@dale: ladies can be just a paranoid as men, & in some ways might feel more physically vulnerable. so true about folks who have more $ than sense. thanks for the backstory!
  Thu. 1/31/13 6:41pm moose:

i was mugged with a gun at my head once in early 90s jersey city
they took my walkman with my opal cassette inside (i asked for the tape back!)
Avatar    Thu. 1/31/13 6:41pm Philo Gristle:

Will Clay play Coop's "Pass the Gun Around"? Maybe.
Avatar    Thu. 1/31/13 6:41pm dale:

their big thing is rescuing manhattan pigeons who are injured. probably spent 80-100 grand on a building with water, power, heat (all without permits), huge enclosure made out of telephone poles enclosed in netting etc for 20 pigeons. then they shoot owls and hawks and foxes who coma around to eat the trapped pigeons. i made some decent money off all the work so i can't really complain
Avatar Thu. 1/31/13 6:41pm glenn:

sorry guys, does anybody honestly believe that the gun they carry will protect them from the government?
  Thu. 1/31/13 6:42pm Clay Pigeon:

Yo Glenn!
Avatar    Thu. 1/31/13 6:43pm Philo Gristle:

I was mugged once, at age 8. The two gypsy thugs on bicycles must've been 12. They stole my salty licorice candy and took a bite off my pear popsicle before giving it back. I threw it to the ground. Soon after they had left. Boy was I mad. True story!
Avatar    Thu. 1/31/13 6:43pm kat330:

I have a tragic backstory involving an 8-yr. old boy on our street when I was even younger. He and a friend found his father's gun and, then he was dead. It's the irresponsible gun owners. I mean, if we already know how irresponsible people are in being parents (or wearing condoms to start with), what makes them suddenly geniuses and responsible citizens when it comes to gun ownership?
Avatar Thu. 1/31/13 6:44pm glenn:

hi clay. how's things?
Avatar Thu. 1/31/13 6:44pm northguineahills:

I got held up w/ a gun to my head in Fort Greene in 2003. Caught him later that night, and I had to testify to the grand jury. He got 8 years and is now on probation.
Avatar Thu. 1/31/13 6:45pm sFrances from VA:

@kat330: I totally agree with you, what a tragedy.
  Thu. 1/31/13 6:45pm ?:

Great one Philo! Maybe this as well http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4JeDxJkAorU
Avatar    Thu. 1/31/13 6:45pm dale:

that's wicked sad kat...tragedy
  Thu. 1/31/13 6:46pm Fredericks:

Been packing ever since, huh, Philo?
Avatar Thu. 1/31/13 6:47pm glenn:

i came very close to shooting my brother in the head when i was about 8. another case of "whoops, we didn't think it was loaded".
Avatar    Thu. 1/31/13 6:47pm Philo Gristle:

Given that you need to pass a test or few to get a drivers license, I don't see a problem having a similar set to get a gun.
Avatar Thu. 1/31/13 6:48pm glenn:

hm. 8 seems to be a bad age.
Avatar    Thu. 1/31/13 6:48pm Philo Gristle:

@Fredericks My left pinky is registered as a lethal weapon.
Avatar Thu. 1/31/13 6:49pm sFrances from VA:

So that's 3 of us so far that've been the victim of gun violence + 1 close to a gun fatality (2 if you want to count my friend's suicide by gun).

I'm going to guess these were all handguns too, not assault rifles....

great.
  Thu. 1/31/13 6:49pm Fredericks:

Oh, my!
Avatar    Thu. 1/31/13 6:50pm dale:

i've cut meat consumption down to one or two servings of fish per week. then i watch nature on pbs and see their survival instincts and feel like crap eating a piece of salmon
Avatar Thu. 1/31/13 6:50pm Timbrocks:

Anyone who owns a gun and doesn't keep it in a gun safe is a fool. If they have kids, especially so. That's sad of course but it's moronic. No one should EVER be that irresponsible.
Avatar    Thu. 1/31/13 6:50pm Carmichael:

I have a registered handgun in my bedroom somewhere, for those late-night unwanted visitors. That's where it stays, and my children don't even know I have it. Why can't other people just settle for the same?
Avatar Thu. 1/31/13 6:50pm Timbrocks:

Alright, Clay. "Love Gun" is about Gene Simmons' penis. It's not about a real gun.
Avatar    Thu. 1/31/13 6:50pm Philo Gristle:

My brother shot me in the face with an air rifle. Luckily it had been loaded with a q-tip. I still yelled at him.
Avatar    Thu. 1/31/13 6:51pm kat330:

And I have a half-brother who actually is a vendor at gun shows, so he has an economic investment in the matter. Whatever "pry it from my cold dead fingers!" argument can be made, it still is perfectly sane and reasonable to outright ban automatic assault weapons and volume ammunition, as well as background checks as restrictive as getting driver's licenses and beyond.
Avatar    Thu. 1/31/13 6:52pm dale:

wife's sister and bro in law keep loaded handguns on the nightstands. when she stayed with then she thought the alarm would go off and she'd try to shut it off and blow her brains out by accident
Avatar Thu. 1/31/13 6:52pm Timbrocks:

@kat a real gun owner should take a class that teaches responsible gun ownership. if they take a carry and conceal, they would be required to attend a class like that. i'm all for everyone being required to take such a course if they want to apply for gun ownership.
Avatar Thu. 1/31/13 6:52pm glenn:

in my case it was my mom's .22.
  Thu. 1/31/13 6:52pm Night Al:

We need to be striving to become a green energy using, non-warring, kind, sympathetic race of beings. Or I'm getting a gun and kill everyone of you motherfuckers!
Avatar    Thu. 1/31/13 6:53pm kat330:

I didn't mean BAN background checks, obviously -- I need to get dinner going though since apparently my mind is weakening from the hunger vapors. :)

Great show, Clay! I'll catch up on all I miss later on. Bye and sweet dreams, all!
  Thu. 1/31/13 6:53pm Clay Pigeon:

Have enjoyed your comments. Have to get ready for Night People. Thanks for listening everybody. Appreciate it. Stay safe and ... always remember.
Avatar Thu. 1/31/13 6:53pm sFrances from VA:

@Clay: Good point about there being a Sickness in this country
  Thu. 1/31/13 6:53pm Fredericks:

Timbrocks: Controlling fools would be far more expensive than controlling guns.
Avatar Thu. 1/31/13 6:54pm glenn:

keep your stick on the ice, clay.
Avatar Thu. 1/31/13 6:54pm sFrances from VA:

THanks for a great show, Clay!!!! Have a great weekend y'all ! Be safe & responsible!
Avatar    Thu. 1/31/13 6:55pm Carmichael:

With the gun lobby, the argument seems to be all or nothing. No registration, no limit on rounds or numbers of weapons, no background checks at gun shows. They seem to see that as the 1st sign of an imminent government takeover. I just don't get the lack of reasonable discussion.
Avatar    Thu. 1/31/13 6:55pm Philo Gristle:

I miss hockey. I've missed it since 1986 or so. Great show, Clay! Thanks to all partici-pants, too!
  Thu. 1/31/13 6:56pm seang:

take it easy , Clay
Avatar Thu. 1/31/13 6:56pm Timbrocks:

@Fredericls if expense is your primary concern, you've got the wrong idea.
Avatar Thu. 1/31/13 6:56pm northguineahills:

I always wanted an arquebus.
Avatar Thu. 1/31/13 6:56pm sFrances from VA:

oh MAN! Bless the Beast & the Children was a movie that made me weep when I saw it on TV in the 70s.
Avatar Thu. 1/31/13 6:56pm glenn:

it's the only argument they have, carmichael.
Avatar Thu. 1/31/13 6:56pm Timbrocks:

Great show Clay! Thank you!
Avatar    Thu. 1/31/13 6:56pm Philo Gristle:

@Carm with you on last two comments.
  Thu. 1/31/13 6:57pm drewo:

Handguns are far and away the weapon of choice used in most homicides. But you don't hear much talk about that. Can't help but think of political grandstanding. Also interestingly enough, 55% of gun murders are suicide.

I heard this on a recent Talk Of The Nation radio show.
http://www.npr.org/2013/01/16/169522798/the-presidents-plans-to-reduce-gun-violence
Avatar Thu. 1/31/13 6:58pm northguineahills:

Thanks Clay!
Avatar Thu. 1/31/13 6:58pm Timbrocks:

@Carm with you on that. It should never be all or nothing. People definitely treat it that way. We do need stronger background checks. Gun shows are a free for all, at least down here. That's just as scary as anything.
Avatar Thu. 1/31/13 6:58pm glenn:

no, 55% of gun DEATHS are suicide.
Avatar    Thu. 1/31/13 6:59pm Philo Gristle:

Night, owl!
  Thu. 1/31/13 7:00pm Marmalade Kitty:

I must refrain from giving my opinions on guns for fear of upsetting any one.. yella cowardly enough to use'em!
Avatar Thu. 1/31/13 7:00pm Timbrocks:

Damn, Clay! Break it down!
Avatar Thu. 1/31/13 7:01pm sFrances from VA:

RIght on Marmalade!
Avatar Thu. 1/31/13 7:01pm glenn:

+2 for m.k.
  Thu. 1/31/13 7:03pm Marmalade Kitty:

arm wrestle! anyone?
Avatar Thu. 1/31/13 7:06pm sFrances from VA:

M Kitty, in case you missed mah kitteh earlier to take the sting out of gun talk: www.flickr.com...
  Thu. 1/31/13 7:08pm Marmalade Kitty:

sweetie pie!
Avatar Thu. 1/31/13 7:10pm sFrances from VA:

that she is! ms panzy. have a great one y'all! i'm outskies!
  Thu. 1/31/13 7:20pm Marmalade Kitty:

Thanks Frances! Goodnight all!
Avatar    Thu. 1/31/13 11:10pm Matt from Springfield:

It's sweet that you guys miss me after only 5 minutes! :D
Avatar    Thu. 1/31/13 11:55pm Matt from Springfield:

Nice song to end the show! Very pleased you remembered Karen Carpenter--30th anniversary of her death on Feb 4. Always Remembered...
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