WFMU: Aerial View: Playlist from October 23, 2012

Listener comments!
	6:15pm Caryn: A disaster caused by a lack of power and technology was also used in an episode of the "Dilbert" tv show.
	6:19pm Caryn: I'd say "Five" is the first post-apocalyptic movie I can think of. Made in 1951.
	6:23pm darue: My theory is that "end of the world" stuff is just our societies way of externalizing our own fears of death. After all, the world will end for each of us at some point. don't know for sure what the first movie would be, but the literature goes back to the late 1800's early 1900s. There's actually some good books available on projectgutenberg. Iron Sky is already out.
	6:23pm Hidden Ranch: Rutger Hauer?
	6:24pm Caryn: Yeah, "Iron Sky" has been out on DVD for months now.
	6:24pm Corn Schnauser: iron sky has been out for a long time, chris!
	6:26pm Hidden Ranch: It was Gwen Stefani
	6:28pm sssss: no, it was don johnson yes
	6:29pm Erik: Don Johnson was in it, a Harlan Ellison book.
	6:29pm steve from SF: The greatest of the genre, at the book version: The Road
	6:30pm Razor Smartpal: This guy has not seen "A Boy and His Dog?" Simply, he is no expert.
	6:30pm darue: Seeking a Friend for the End of the World is worth seeing, it's nice. Another new one is: 4:44 Last Day on Earth staring William Dafoe A Boy and his Dog is based on the Harlen Elison story.
	6:30pm Caryn: Actually, "Things to Come" is a post-apocalyptic utopia movie. Made in 1936, so that's the earliest I can think of.
	6:31pm Hidden Ranch: The Stand ... Randall Flagg.
	6:31pm Ken From Hyde Park: Crud...just sat there through Mole time (6:02 10/23 in this time zone). http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mole_Day
	6:31pm darue: I agree, Shape of Things to Come is probably the first movie
	6:33pm Hidden Ranch: I know it's mainstream, but the Tom Cruise version of War of the Worlds was scary ... especially that death foghorn before the vaporizing would begin.
	6:35pm lala in catskills: YES! a boy and his dog is fantastic. Highly recommended. Any apocalypto-cine connoisseur must see it to call one's self such. On netflix instant last I checked... L.Q. Jones is a pretty fascinating character
	6:35pm darue: one to checkout: The World, the Flesh and the Devil (1959 film) The World, the Flesh and the Devil is a 1959 science fiction doomsday film written and directed by Ranald MacDougall. The star is Harry Belafonte, who was then at the peak of his film career. Using a science fiction premise about the end of the world, the movie is based in part on two sources: the novel The Purple Cloud by M. P. Shiel[1] and the story "End of the World" by Ferdinand Reyher.
	6:36pm Caryn: In terms of end of the world, I prefer the dark or open-ended ones. Like "Threads", "The Edge of Darkness", "The Day the Earth Caught Fire" or "When the Wind Blows". (The Roger Waters/David Bowie soundtrack of the last one ain't bad either.) Though sometimes you gotta go for slightly lighter stuff, like the "Planet of the Apes" movies, or even "The Bed Sitting Room".
	6:36pm Pleshette Fan: I know this isn't a post-apocalyptic movie, per se, but I have to rate Hitchcock's, "The Birds" as one that imparted a real sense of dread. And there is a drunk at the bar who says .. "It's the end of the world!"
	6:37pm Caryn: @Pleshette Fan: well, the original ending certainly made it an apocalyptic movie, so it definitely counts.
	6:37pm Danne D: Does Battlefield Earth count for purposes of this discussion? :)
	6:38pm Caryn: Well, the "guy wakes up in a hospital to find out the world has ended" has been used plenty before. Like in "The Day of the Triffids".
	6:38pm Danne D: @Caryn: Is it pronounced Co - rinn or Kar n ?
	6:39pm Caryn: @Danne: Kar n.
	6:39pm darue: the best thing about Battlefield Earth is bringing me the phrase "man animals"
	6:39pm dale: 'all the time in the world' was the name of that twilight zone episode.
	6:40pm Caryn: And it's Udo Kier in "Iron Sky".
	6:40pm Lithgau Fan: There were some great made for TV apocalyptic things like ... The Day After.
	6:41pm Caryn: Jan-Michael Vincent was in "Damnation Alley". I think the caller got the two mixed up.
	6:42pm dale: jan michael vincent was in a great movie of the week called 'tribes.' - he's a hippy drafted and coming to blows with his sargent. the hippy wins.
	6:42pm dale: ooh - udo kier is great in andy warhol's dracula!
	6:42pm Caryn: @Lithgau Fan: yeah, that was ok. I think I preferred "Testament".
	6:42pm darue: Let's not forget the classic, Night of the Comet A seldom heard of one: Glenn and Randa (well post-apoc)
	6:43pm Ken From Hyde Park: I once read the "Alas, Babylon" novel. I don't think that's been made into a movie.
	6:43pm steve from SF: Mike Davis has a nice chapter in his book Dead Cities (I believe) on this same fad in literature, often dating back centuries, with the classic Earth Abides from the 1940's as an example.
	6:43pm pete: "repo man" flirts with h-bomb apocalypse (for los angeles at least)
	6:44pm steve from SF: Last Night, 1998, very good.
	6:44pm darue: there's a great 50s one, where these people are stuck in a roadblock, and everyone things it's nuke apoc. In the end they find out it wasn't the end after all and go home. (of course the dead stay dead). sorry can't remember the name. a classic tho
	6:44pm Auld: Aw, hell. I'll say it. Mad Max!!! It took us beyond the Thunderdome!
	6:45pm InBrkly: Zardoz.
	6:46pm darue: and of course: When Worlds Collide (1951)
	6:46pm Caryn: @darue: that's "This is not a Test" from 1962.
	6:46pm InBrkly: Battle Royale
	6:46pm kata: melancholia is great - but you should really see it in a theatre. It's great though. Total antithesis of typical hollywood societal chaos. The characters are isolated which makes it more psychologically intense.
	6:47pm steve from SF: Battle Royale
	6:47pm jefferyrofl: The last man on earth, 1964 - Vincent Price zombie movie: must see!!
	6:47pm darue: thank you Caryn!
	6:49pm Caryn: "The Last War" is a great Japanese end-of-the-world movie.
	6:49pm Danne D: Jan Michael Vincent is like a poor man's Richard Dean Anderson :)
	6:50pm Jorge: would be awesome if somebody can recommend some apocaliptic movies from countries like india or pakistan, maybe some movies out of the american radar. Just wondering how that works, is there some kind of sci-fi-bollywood not yet that we are all missing ?
	6:50pm lala in catskills: YES. See Melancholia if you want to see the apocalypse on a small scale. That's what makes it appealing--an intimate apocalypse lived through the lens of a single family. Most apocalypse films feature giant panorama shots of civilization crumbling among other tropes. Melancholia was a BIG comeback in my opinion after Antichrist...
	6:50pm Danne D: Really can't talk apocalyptic movies without mentioning "The Day After" can we? Even though I guess it's not strictly the end of the world.
	6:51pm darue: another great Japanese movie including (but not focuses exclusively on) the end of the world: The Dimension Travelers http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bt6lwMXmljw and Wim Wender's Until the End of the World is one of my all time favorite movies.
	6:51pm Ken From Hyde Park: How come in "The Day After Tomorrow," the tsunami hits NY City and the water level doesn't go down? There were some other plot holes in that picture, too.
	6:52pm Oftopik: Please acknowledge Orson Welles. The Godfather of Apocalyptica.
	6:53pm InBrkly: Does anyone remember a tv show called Ark II
	6:53pm FRANK IN NEW YORK: The Last Man on Earth- the Omega Man Story with Vincent Price as the lead.
	6:54pm Kev: Waterworld!!!!!
	6:54pm InBrkly: This is the intro to Ark II http://youtu.be/63_lcQUdxxE
	6:55pm darue: The Quatermass Conclusion (1979) is great English one
	6:55pm jefferyrofl: Ever seen The Happening? With Mark Walberg
	6:55pm darue: god bless Ark II :-)
	6:55pm Caryn: The Spanish movie "The Dark Hour" is very good. It's the end of the world after the end of the world. Double your fun! The Russian film "Dead Man's Letters" is okay. The "Survivors" tv shows are good.
	6:56pm Kev: Freudian!
	6:56pm tony: You mentioned a Canadian film earlier. One of my favorite films is an early Cronenberg film called Shivers (also known as They Came From Within). Very disturbing film. Similar to J.G. Ballard's High Rise novel.
	6:56pm Caryn: French film "Malevil" is interesting too.
	6:59pm jefferyrofl: Apoca-dicks
	7:01pm darue: The first work of modern apocalyptic fiction in English may be Mary Shelley's 1826 novel The Last Man, the story of a man living in a future world which is slowly emptied of humanity by a plague.
	7:04pm Caryn: @Jorge: well, it's unlikely that there are any post-apocalypse movies from e.g. Pakistan and India that would involve nuclear war. Their approach to nuclear weapons is different. But I have seen a kind of post-apocalyptic Indian movie about what happens to society when the female population is way lower than the male one, due to selective abortions etc. Can't remember the name of it, though.

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Listener comments!
	6:15pm Caryn: A disaster caused by a lack of power and technology was also used in an episode of the "Dilbert" tv show.
	6:19pm Caryn: I'd say "Five" is the first post-apocalyptic movie I can think of. Made in 1951.
	6:23pm darue: My theory is that "end of the world" stuff is just our societies way of externalizing our own fears of death. After all, the world will end for each of us at some point. don't know for sure what the first movie would be, but the literature goes back to the late 1800's early 1900s. There's actually some good books available on projectgutenberg. Iron Sky is already out.
	6:23pm Hidden Ranch: Rutger Hauer?
	6:24pm Caryn: Yeah, "Iron Sky" has been out on DVD for months now.
	6:24pm Corn Schnauser: iron sky has been out for a long time, chris!
	6:26pm Hidden Ranch: It was Gwen Stefani
	6:28pm sssss: no, it was don johnson yes
	6:29pm Erik: Don Johnson was in it, a Harlan Ellison book.
	6:29pm steve from SF: The greatest of the genre, at the book version: The Road
	6:30pm Razor Smartpal: This guy has not seen "A Boy and His Dog?" Simply, he is no expert.
	6:30pm darue: Seeking a Friend for the End of the World is worth seeing, it's nice. Another new one is: 4:44 Last Day on Earth staring William Dafoe A Boy and his Dog is based on the Harlen Elison story.
	6:30pm Caryn: Actually, "Things to Come" is a post-apocalyptic utopia movie. Made in 1936, so that's the earliest I can think of.
	6:31pm Hidden Ranch: The Stand ... Randall Flagg.
	6:31pm Ken From Hyde Park: Crud...just sat there through Mole time (6:02 10/23 in this time zone). http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mole_Day
	6:31pm darue: I agree, Shape of Things to Come is probably the first movie
	6:33pm Hidden Ranch: I know it's mainstream, but the Tom Cruise version of War of the Worlds was scary ... especially that death foghorn before the vaporizing would begin.
	6:35pm lala in catskills: YES! a boy and his dog is fantastic. Highly recommended. Any apocalypto-cine connoisseur must see it to call one's self such. On netflix instant last I checked... L.Q. Jones is a pretty fascinating character
	6:35pm darue: one to checkout: The World, the Flesh and the Devil (1959 film) The World, the Flesh and the Devil is a 1959 science fiction doomsday film written and directed by Ranald MacDougall. The star is Harry Belafonte, who was then at the peak of his film career. Using a science fiction premise about the end of the world, the movie is based in part on two sources: the novel The Purple Cloud by M. P. Shiel[1] and the story "End of the World" by Ferdinand Reyher.
	6:36pm Caryn: In terms of end of the world, I prefer the dark or open-ended ones. Like "Threads", "The Edge of Darkness", "The Day the Earth Caught Fire" or "When the Wind Blows". (The Roger Waters/David Bowie soundtrack of the last one ain't bad either.) Though sometimes you gotta go for slightly lighter stuff, like the "Planet of the Apes" movies, or even "The Bed Sitting Room".
	6:36pm Pleshette Fan: I know this isn't a post-apocalyptic movie, per se, but I have to rate Hitchcock's, "The Birds" as one that imparted a real sense of dread. And there is a drunk at the bar who says .. "It's the end of the world!"
	6:37pm Caryn: @Pleshette Fan: well, the original ending certainly made it an apocalyptic movie, so it definitely counts.
	6:37pm Danne D: Does Battlefield Earth count for purposes of this discussion? :)
	6:38pm Caryn: Well, the "guy wakes up in a hospital to find out the world has ended" has been used plenty before. Like in "The Day of the Triffids".
	6:38pm Danne D: @Caryn: Is it pronounced Co - rinn or Kar n ?
	6:39pm Caryn: @Danne: Kar n.
	6:39pm darue: the best thing about Battlefield Earth is bringing me the phrase "man animals"
	6:39pm dale: 'all the time in the world' was the name of that twilight zone episode.
	6:40pm Caryn: And it's Udo Kier in "Iron Sky".
	6:40pm Lithgau Fan: There were some great made for TV apocalyptic things like ... The Day After.
	6:41pm Caryn: Jan-Michael Vincent was in "Damnation Alley". I think the caller got the two mixed up.
	6:42pm dale: jan michael vincent was in a great movie of the week called 'tribes.' - he's a hippy drafted and coming to blows with his sargent. the hippy wins.
	6:42pm dale: ooh - udo kier is great in andy warhol's dracula!
	6:42pm Caryn: @Lithgau Fan: yeah, that was ok. I think I preferred "Testament".
	6:42pm darue: Let's not forget the classic, Night of the Comet A seldom heard of one: Glenn and Randa (well post-apoc)
	6:43pm Ken From Hyde Park: I once read the "Alas, Babylon" novel. I don't think that's been made into a movie.
	6:43pm steve from SF: Mike Davis has a nice chapter in his book Dead Cities (I believe) on this same fad in literature, often dating back centuries, with the classic Earth Abides from the 1940's as an example.
	6:43pm pete: "repo man" flirts with h-bomb apocalypse (for los angeles at least)
	6:44pm steve from SF: Last Night, 1998, very good.
	6:44pm darue: there's a great 50s one, where these people are stuck in a roadblock, and everyone things it's nuke apoc. In the end they find out it wasn't the end after all and go home. (of course the dead stay dead). sorry can't remember the name. a classic tho
	6:44pm Auld: Aw, hell. I'll say it. Mad Max!!! It took us beyond the Thunderdome!
	6:45pm InBrkly: Zardoz.
	6:46pm darue: and of course: When Worlds Collide (1951)
	6:46pm Caryn: @darue: that's "This is not a Test" from 1962.
	6:46pm InBrkly: Battle Royale
	6:46pm kata: melancholia is great - but you should really see it in a theatre. It's great though. Total antithesis of typical hollywood societal chaos. The characters are isolated which makes it more psychologically intense.
	6:47pm steve from SF: Battle Royale
	6:47pm jefferyrofl: The last man on earth, 1964 - Vincent Price zombie movie: must see!!
	6:47pm darue: thank you Caryn!
	6:49pm Caryn: "The Last War" is a great Japanese end-of-the-world movie.
	6:49pm Danne D: Jan Michael Vincent is like a poor man's Richard Dean Anderson :)
	6:50pm Jorge: would be awesome if somebody can recommend some apocaliptic movies from countries like india or pakistan, maybe some movies out of the american radar. Just wondering how that works, is there some kind of sci-fi-bollywood not yet that we are all missing ?
	6:50pm lala in catskills: YES. See Melancholia if you want to see the apocalypse on a small scale. That's what makes it appealing--an intimate apocalypse lived through the lens of a single family. Most apocalypse films feature giant panorama shots of civilization crumbling among other tropes. Melancholia was a BIG comeback in my opinion after Antichrist...
	6:50pm Danne D: Really can't talk apocalyptic movies without mentioning "The Day After" can we? Even though I guess it's not strictly the end of the world.
	6:51pm darue: another great Japanese movie including (but not focuses exclusively on) the end of the world: The Dimension Travelers http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bt6lwMXmljw and Wim Wender's Until the End of the World is one of my all time favorite movies.
	6:51pm Ken From Hyde Park: How come in "The Day After Tomorrow," the tsunami hits NY City and the water level doesn't go down? There were some other plot holes in that picture, too.
	6:52pm Oftopik: Please acknowledge Orson Welles. The Godfather of Apocalyptica.
	6:53pm InBrkly: Does anyone remember a tv show called Ark II
	6:53pm FRANK IN NEW YORK: The Last Man on Earth- the Omega Man Story with Vincent Price as the lead.
	6:54pm Kev: Waterworld!!!!!
	6:54pm InBrkly: This is the intro to Ark II http://youtu.be/63_lcQUdxxE
	6:55pm darue: The Quatermass Conclusion (1979) is great English one
	6:55pm jefferyrofl: Ever seen The Happening? With Mark Walberg
	6:55pm darue: god bless Ark II :-)
	6:55pm Caryn: The Spanish movie "The Dark Hour" is very good. It's the end of the world after the end of the world. Double your fun! The Russian film "Dead Man's Letters" is okay. The "Survivors" tv shows are good.
	6:56pm Kev: Freudian!
	6:56pm tony: You mentioned a Canadian film earlier. One of my favorite films is an early Cronenberg film called Shivers (also known as They Came From Within). Very disturbing film. Similar to J.G. Ballard's High Rise novel.
	6:56pm Caryn: French film "Malevil" is interesting too.
	6:59pm jefferyrofl: Apoca-dicks
	7:01pm darue: The first work of modern apocalyptic fiction in English may be Mary Shelley's 1826 novel The Last Man, the story of a man living in a future world which is slowly emptied of humanity by a plague.
	7:04pm Caryn: @Jorge: well, it's unlikely that there are any post-apocalypse movies from e.g. Pakistan and India that would involve nuclear war. Their approach to nuclear weapons is different. But I have seen a kind of post-apocalyptic Indian movie about what happens to society when the female population is way lower than the male one, due to selective abortions etc. Can't remember the name of it, though.

Aerial View: Playlist from October 23, 2012

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