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Options July 26, 2012: The Aurora Shootings - Con Ed Protest II - Union Square People

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  The first half of this episode concerns the shootings in Aurora, Colorado, 7/18/12. I recorded the interviews in front of the Chelsea Clearview Theater on W 23rd St. between 7th and 8th Ave. ----- The second half of the show consists of various interviews and topics, recorded in and around Union Square Park in Manhattan.
  Police Scanner Audio Bytes Courtesy of CNN News
  The introductory piece mixes police scanner outakes from the Aurora shootings, a guitar sample from Yes' "Starship Trooper,' plus keys and bass added by yours truly. Digi-Pidge mix. I did receive a complaint on the Accuplaylist from a listener who felt it was in bad taste. I'm not sure if it is or if it isn't. It's just how I responded to the incident. It was also postualted that we've all become somewhat desensitized to violence and I think that is possibly true. No one I encountered was overwhelmed or particularly distraught by what had transpired - they still attended the movie and carried on pretty much as usual, but perhaps this is what we do in a society that frequently doesn't make sense and sometimes spawns horrific violence. We carry on. Like you, I was shocked and saddened by what transpired.
 
Pidge-Mix of Police Scanner Activity and Yes Sample.
 
Introduction
 
Speaker of the House John Boehner Comments on the Aurora Shootings and Gun Control Laws - Audio Courtesy of AP News
Larry Coryell  Spaces (Infinite)   Options Spaces  Vanguard  1974  LP  Music behind Boehner - Gohmert   
 
Texas Republican Rep. Louie Gohmert Speaks Concerning The Shootings - Audio Courtesy of Huffpost Politics.com
 
The Alleged
The Marketts  The Joker   Options The Batman Theme Played by the Marketts  WB  1966  LP     
 
Unleashed Fury
Return To Forever  Space Circus Part I   Options Hymn of the Seventh Galaxy  Polydor  1973  LP  Music Behind DJ   
 
An Interview with Steve and Tye In Front of the Chelsea Clearview Theater - Manhattan
Dan Ocko, Jim Stevens, Nat Polen, Ronald Liss, Elaine Rost, Hamilton Ohara  Excerpt   Options Batman with Robin the Boy Wonder  A.A. Records  1966  LP  Narrator not named on record jacket.   
 
What's Causing These Things to Happen? ---- dusty@wfmu.org
Alice Cooper  Desperado   Options Killer  Warner Bros.  1972  LP     
 
Gun Control Laws - Hot Button Issue
 
TV Report Concerning the NYPF Shooting of 18-year-old Ramarley Graham. Newscaster Bill Ritter Audio Courtesy of ABC 7 News, NY.
 
Tye - Growing Up Around Constant Gunfire
Offshore  Aneurysm   Options Aneurysm  Big Dada  2010  12"  Music behind Tye.   
 
Steve - Holding In Emotions Until You Explode
 
A Complex World
Unknown Voice Actors  The Amazons From Space (Excerpt)   Options Wonder Woman  Power  1975  LP     
Cypress Hill  We Ain't Goin' Out Like That (Radio Edit)   Options   Sony/Ruff House  1993  12"  Vocals sound buried, not sure why.   
 
An Interview with Mark and Jess in Front of the Chelsea Clearview Theatre
Jamey Aebersold  Mr. Super Hip   Options Nothin' But Blues Vol. 2  JA  Mid-70's-ish  LP  Music behind Mark and Jess   
 
How Did You Feel When You Heard The News? ----- dusty@wfmu.org
 
Copycat Crimes
Neal Hefti  Sewer Lady   Options Batman - Batman Theme  RCA Victor  1966  LP  Love this!   
 
An Interview with Eric and Richard in Front of the Chelsea Clearview Theatre
 
Dylan Moment
Synergy  Delta 3/B   Options Games  Passport  1979  LP  Music behind Eric and Richard   
 
It's A Shock But It's Not So Shocking ...
 
"Gun Control Is Way Out Of Control"
 
F--- You to the NRA
 
NYC Mayor Mike Bloomberg on Gun Control - Audio Courtesy of MSNBC
Li'l Wally  Pistol Packin' Mama   Options Li'l Wally in Miami Beach  Jay Jay  ?  LP     
 
Two More Moviegoers
 
Alleged Murderer James Holmes is Arraigned in Colorado Court
 
Individual Factors
Pills  Rock Me (Original Mix)   Options   Mercury France  1997  12"  Music behind individual factors.   
 
Everyone Has Their Craziness
 
Do We Need Stricter Gun Control Laws? ----- dusty@wfmu.org
Morton Gould / National Philharmonic Orchestra  Kristallnacht ("The Night of the Broken Glass")   Options Music from the NBC TV Film, Holocaust  RCA/Red Seal  1978  LP  Music behind "Do we need stricter gun control laws."   
 
Safety Over Everything
Kiss  Love Gun   Options Love Gun  Casablanca  1977  LP     
 
An Interview with Benjamin Walker of WFMU (plus friend) at the Chelsea Clearview Theatre
Neal Hefti  Jervis   Options Batman - Batman Theme  RCA Victor  1966  LP  Music behind Benjamin   
 
A Few Beers
 
Something In French
 
Infamy
Frank Pourcel  The Things of Life   Options The World Is A Circle  Paramount  1973  LP  Easy listening music behind Ben. In heavy rotation at the pigeon coop.   
 
Get A Podcast!
  My interview with Benjamin Walker was shorter than I wish, but he was in civilian mode and deserved to have his non-radio time. By the way, it was completely RANDOM that I ran into him, which in NYC is quite something!
Budgie  Homicidal Suicidal   Options Budgie  MCA/Discos Fuentes  1971  LP  My copy of this LP is a Columbian release.   
 
Afraid to See Batman
 
From Minnesota
The Philadelphia Orchestra - Eugene Ormandy Conducting  Three Places In New England - III - from The Housatonic at Stockbridge   Options The World of Charles Ives  Columbia  ?  LP  Ethereal music behind Minnesota guy.   
 
A Gun Enthusiast
 
What About Assault Rifles? ----- dusty@wfmu.org
U.K.  Mental Medication   Options U.K.  Polydor  1978  LP  Prog behind Minnesota guy.   
 
Think and Reload
 
Not Anti-Gun
John Fahey  Christmas Fantasy - Part I   Options Christmas with John Fahey Vol. II  Takoma  1975  LP  Acoustic guitar music. Takomasak!   
 
Consider the Constitution
 
Occupy Chant
Dan Ocko, Jim Stevens, Nat Polen, Ronald Liss, Elaine Rost, Hamilton Ohara  Excerpt   Options Batman with Robin the Boy Wonder  A.A. Records  1966  LP  Narrator not specifically named on jacket.   
 
Rush Instance
 
The Beauty of this Country
George Bennette  Chant de Extase dans un paysage triste   Options George Bennette Plays The Preludes Of Messiaen, The Fantasy Pieces Of Del Tredici, And Portrait By Helps  Desto  ?  LP  Composition by Olivier Messiaen - Music behind femal speaker.   
Poe  Angry Johnny   Options Hello  Atlantic  1995  LP  The Video -----

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lrygAv93Ick 

 
 
An Interview with Andria and Bobby in Front of the Chelsea Clearview Theatre
Orichalcum  The Curse of Uqbhar   Options   Tip  1997  12"  Music behind Andria and Bobby   
Tim Curry  Sweet Transvestite   Options The Rocky Horror Picture Show  Ode  1975  LP     
 
Rockytok™
 
F---ing Amazeballs!
 
Put My Finger On It
John Barry  Science Fiction   Options Midnight Cowboy - Original Motion Picture Soundtrack  UA  1969  LP  Scary music behind Andria   
 
Negative Attention is Still Attention
 
So Nuts
Will Smith/Dru Hill/Kool Moe Dee  Wild Wild West   Options Wild Wild West  Overbrook/Interscope/Columbia  1999  CD     
 
From Texas
 
Who Wants To Touch That?
Metatron  Clavisyn (Cornered Mix)   Options Solenoid/Metatron  Outward  1998  12"  Music behind Texas talk +   
 
Sniper
 
I Don't Know, Dude
 
Your Own Decisions
 
The Tape Turn
 
Side II - Intro
  Here's a request for listener email. Drop me a line sometime and tell me what city you're in and how you listen - Live? Archive? Podcast? Also, share some thoughts on what you like/dislike about the show, your musical preferences and just anything you feel like spouting off about.

dusty@wfmu.org

 
An Interview with Yael in Union Square Park - Manhattan - 7/24/12
 
Outdoor House of Study for Jewish Texts as they Relate to Worker's Rights
 
Torah's Mandate
 
The Group Sings
 
Ragtag Band Leads Worker's Rights Protest Near Union Square Park
 
What It's All About - A Protester Speaks
 
Scrub Your Own Toilet Bowl
 
Under Direct Attack
 
Target's Anti-Union Propaganda Video (Excerpt)
 
Rev. Dr. Ray Blanchett Exhorts To Protesters of Con Edison 7/24/12
Bloodrock  It's a Sad World   Options USA  Capitol   1971    From CC4, the most recent Dusty Show Marathon Premium!   
 
An Interview with Jed Krumfeld, Nose Flautist, in Union Square Park - 7/24/12
 
Hot Scoop
Oregon   The Swan   Options Music Of Another Present Era  Vanguard  1972  LP  Mellow music behind Jed. A nod to my friend Scojo, who likes this LP.   
 
The Recorder is for Dorks!
 
16
Blue  River Drive   Options   Street Beats  1998  12"  Music behind Jed   
 
RNA and Cosine Waves

http://whatis.techtarget.com/definition/cosine-wave

 
Jed Krumfeld Plays Dual Nose-Flutes - "Girls Just Wanna Have Fun"
 
Stilt Lady
 
Webster Hall Circus Saturdays

http://www.websterhall.com/nightclub/saturday.php

 
20-Hula Hoops at the Same Time
 
9-Feet Tall
 
Women Get Grabby
Yes  Your's Is No Disgrace   Options The Yes Album  Atlantic  1973  LP     
 
An Interview with Eric in Union Square Park - 7/24/12
Tom Tom Club  Wordy Rappinghood   Options Tom Tom Club  Island/Polygram  1981  LP     
Talking Heads  Psycho Killer   Options Talking Heads 77  Sire  1977  LP     
 
David Muir Audio Courtesy of ABC News
 
A Dictatorship or Chaos
Robert Casadesus  Hommage A S. Pickwick, Esq. P.P.M.P.C. 9   Options Debussy Preludes (Book 2)  Columbia Special Products  1977  LP  My country 'tis of thee ...   
 
Mitt Romney Audio Courtesy of FOX News
Hive  Ultrasonic Sound   Options   ffrr  1998  12"     
 
Does Romney Have a Good Shot? ----- dusty@wfmu.org
Michael Jackson  Dangerous   Options The Acapella Album  Sky Forward   ?  LP  An LP of vocal-only Jacko songs.   
 
An Interview with David on Broadway and 17th - Manhattan - 7/24/12
Chick Corea  Picture 1   Options Piano Improvisations Vol. 1  ECM  1971  LP  Soft music behind David   
 
No Address - Homeless
 
He's an A-Hole
 
29
 
Methadone Maintenance
 
Boosting
No Work               
 
Flying A Sign
 
Clean Time
 
Liquid Hang-Ups
 
Anxiety
 
Inherently Good
Tim Story  Glass Green   Options Glass Green  Windham Hill  1987  LP  Ethereal music behind David   
 
Tough Questions
 
Empty Rice Bowl
 
Wisdom
 
Weed Whacking
 
Do You Love America? ----- dusty@wfmu.org
 
Barackcracy
Tim Story   Oil On Wood   Options Glass Green  Windham Hill  1987  LP  Music behind Occupy talk.   
 
Occupy Oakland
 
Massive Social Disobediences
 
What Would You Tell Your Dad if You Could See Him? ----- dusty@wfmu.org
Tim Story  The Lure Of Silence   Options Glass Green  Windham Hill  1987  LP  What would you tell your dad ....   
 
A Violent Person
 
Mama's Boy
 
David's Message of Peace and Love
Jordan De La Sierra  Gymnosphere - Song of the Rose   Options Gymnosphere - Song of the Rose - Music for the Well-Tuned Piano  Unity  '78?  LP  Piano music to end of show.   
  Thanks do much for listening to this episode of The Dusty Show. I hope that my coverage of the Aurora shootings didn't seem flippant or insensitive. Of course, it was a terrible tragedy. I can't imagine the suffering of those involved and their families. I would love to see assault rifles and large ammunition magazines outlawed. As far as TOTAL gun control, I don't think so. After seeing the ferocity of the police at Zuccotti Park, I feel a world where only the cops and the military have guns might lead to some kind of totalitarian scene. I do resent the NRA for their lobbying and for their hardline stance on guns. Who knows how it will play out.

Oh, what a world, eh? It just keeps getting crazier and crazier. Or, does it? Is it the media that tells us it is? I can't tell anymore. Greenland is melting. Grand Canyons beneath the Arctic. Iceberg's calving, James Holmes, Face-eaters, on and on and on and on and on ....

Take care my friends. Thanks for listening.

Always Remember ...

Clay Pigeon - NYC - 7271299

  Thanks do much for listening to this episode of The Dusty Show. I hope that my coverage of the Aurora shootings didn't seem flippant or insensitive. Of course, it was a terrible tragedy. I can't imagine the suffering of those involved and their families. I would love to see assault rifles and large ammunition magazines outlawed. As far as TOTAL gun control, I don't think so. After seeing the ferocity of the police at Zuccotti Park, I feel a world where only the cops and the military have guns might lead to some kind of totalitarian scene. I do resent the NRA for their lobbying and for their hardline stance on guns. Who knows how it will play out.

Oh, what a world, eh? It just keeps getting crazier and crazier. Or, does it? Is it the media that tells us it is? I can't tell anymore. Greenland is melting. Grand Canyons beneath the Arctic. Iceberg's calving, James Holmes, Face-eaters, on and on and on and on and on ....

Take care my friends. Thanks for listening.

Always Remember ...

Clay Pigeon - NYC - 7271299


Listener comments!

  Thu. 7/26/12 6:02pm kata:

hi Clay ! are you alright ?
  Thu. 7/26/12 6:03pm Matt from Springfield:

Special Memorial-Edition Dusty?
  Thu. 7/26/12 6:03pm Clay:

Hello Kata. Yeah, I'm fine.
  Thu. 7/26/12 6:03pm kata:

good to see you Matt -
  Thu. 7/26/12 6:03pm Honey Water:

Hello, Clay. Making dinner for us but raptly listening. I think Benjamin Walker mentioned you interviewed him in line.
  Thu. 7/26/12 6:04pm Clay:

Hi Matt ... half-shooting, half-other ...
  Thu. 7/26/12 6:04pm Clay:

Ben appears later. a little inebriated . :>)
  Thu. 7/26/12 6:04pm Caryn:

Hello all!
  Thu. 7/26/12 6:05pm Philo Gristle:

'Allo Monsieur Pigeon! Alice!
  Thu. 7/26/12 6:05pm sfrances:

Howdy Clay! Howdy y'all! Looking forward to inebriated Ben Walker (his show is another WFMU fave of mine)
  Thu. 7/26/12 6:05pm Clay:

Caryn, Philo ... welcome!
  Thu. 7/26/12 6:06pm Matt from Springfield:

Good crowd already! Hi Pigeonistas!
  Thu. 7/26/12 6:06pm david:

Clay has in 5 minutes already brought more sensitivity and insight to this issue than a weeks worth of crap cable news
  Thu. 7/26/12 6:06pm Clay:

Frances. You made it. !
  Thu. 7/26/12 6:06pm umm:

mega-radiomix of a recent shooting, seems a bit tasteless clay...
  Thu. 7/26/12 6:07pm Clay:

TY David!
  Thu. 7/26/12 6:07pm Philo Gristle:

stream still going in and out here....
  Thu. 7/26/12 6:08pm Clay:

Disagree, Umm, but thanks for your opinion.
  Thu. 7/26/12 6:08pm kata:

I think the bigger issue is that of mental health. You can kill someone with a kitchen knife if you wanted. It's the wanting that is the problem, not the tool. Not to say I'd be against gun control. Not sure on that one.
  Thu. 7/26/12 6:08pm Matt from Springfield:

@female interviewee: So in other words, a society, that is more complex??...
  Thu. 7/26/12 6:10pm sfrances:

(sorry, had to step out for a second) but yes, oui! i'm here.
and i appreciate your coverage of aurora.
  Thu. 7/26/12 6:10pm seang:

suburban alienation
  Thu. 7/26/12 6:12pm sfrances:

Sadly, one issue that isn't raised with gun control are all of the gun related suicides. only homicide or accidental shootings get brought into the debate: and since mental health is often a factor in suicide as well as homicide...it'd be nice if that got as much attention as the NRA throws at gun control attempts....(sorry, stepping off soapbox for the rest of the show)
  Thu. 7/26/12 6:12pm Matt from Springfield:

Mental health is the big one.
While it's impossible to control guns so that no one who's capable of murdering will get them (the shooter WAS a "law-abiding citizen" up until his murders), an idea often thrown around is to limit the magazines that can be sold to 10 bullets or less. Won't stop killing, but will make spree killing a lot more difficult.
  Thu. 7/26/12 6:12pm umm:

interview someone from the shooting saying how they're shocked and splice it with a sample of 'shock the monkey' that's trivializing it a bit no?
  Thu. 7/26/12 6:12pm Timb:

Greetings from Fort Lauderdale! Not sure how I feel about the gun control issue. I feel like there should be less guns and less access to guns, but I also know that the government would love for us to be a gunless society. For me, the shooting seems to be more of a mental health issue. I'd like to know if the perp was on any antidepressants or prescription drugs that may have influenced him to do such a terrible and irrational thing.
  Thu. 7/26/12 6:13pm Matt from Springfield:

@umm: Trivializing, or perhaps just cliché.
  Thu. 7/26/12 6:13pm kata:

one's relationship to community & society plays a major role in a person's mental health, so yes Seang -- suburban alienation is a huge part of it I'd guess.
  Thu. 7/26/12 6:14pm Bad Ronald:

Good show Clay! Social relevance is the key element of TDS. Let the discourse continue!
  Thu. 7/26/12 6:14pm Clay:

Agree with you all about the mental health aspect. No one would do such a thing who wasn't profoundly disturbed. My song selections are meant to reflect how common gun songs are.

Hello Timb
  Thu. 7/26/12 6:15pm kata:

good point Frances, I agree wholeheartedly.
  Thu. 7/26/12 6:15pm Clay:

Hi Ronald. Glad you're here.
  Thu. 7/26/12 6:16pm WRECKEDUMB:

Love the KISS, Mr. Clay Pigeon. Thank ya from the bottom of my Love Gun. Bang!
  Thu. 7/26/12 6:16pm Matt from Springfield:

FMU vs. FMU! Improv Street Edition!! :)
  Thu. 7/26/12 6:17pm Bad Ronald:

Thanks for the warm welcome.
  Thu. 7/26/12 6:17pm sfrances:

'have you been drinking?'
  Thu. 7/26/12 6:18pm Matt from Springfield:

Both of your answers are CORRECT, Mr. Walker!
  Thu. 7/26/12 6:18pm Honey Water:

@kata: But the reports are he was active socially -- not exactly a loner type.

Walker!
  Thu. 7/26/12 6:18pm kata:

hey Ronald, what's TDS ? also good point Timb, I am curious as well if he was medicated..
  Thu. 7/26/12 6:18pm Caryn:

I just have a problem with the NRA being opposed to any additions to background checks and waiting periods when purchasing a gun. I don't see why they oppose this, since it wouldn't stop "law-abiding" "sane" people from getting legal firearms, but might prevent rash gun purchases and disturbed people from getting guns easily. (They could still get their hands on a gun, but with more difficulty.)
Or maybe we should do the Chris Rock solution. Guns are easily available, but bullets cost like $5 each. Big-time spree shootings would be really expensive.
  Thu. 7/26/12 6:19pm umm:

commentary on a society completely de-sensitized to murder?
  Thu. 7/26/12 6:19pm Bad Ronald:

@kata - TDS = The Dusty Show with Clay Pigeon
  Thu. 7/26/12 6:20pm Carmichael:

I just got here. Hiya Clay; sounds like I missed something controversial. Archives, baby.
  Thu. 7/26/12 6:20pm Honey Water:

There is ZERO rationalization for allowing ANYone the purchase of assault weapons. I listened to an NRA guy stumbling over a response to that direct question. He was actually suggesting people DO hunt with machine guns.
  Thu. 7/26/12 6:20pm Matt from Springfield:

Hi Carm! Always catch up with Clay!
  Thu. 7/26/12 6:21pm Clay:

Hullo Wrecked
  Thu. 7/26/12 6:21pm david:

"do we need gun control laws?" "no." "why?" "i'm from minnesota."
  Thu. 7/26/12 6:22pm Matt from Springfield:

Jaded Hipster Gun-Enthusiast--crazy, but I'm almost laughing at his voice!
  Thu. 7/26/12 6:23pm Caryn:

I think the fact that gun permit applications have gone up 43 % in Colorado after the shooting is disturbing. Loads more guns around is not going to make things any safer.
@Honey Water: agree. You want to hunt, you don't need an assault rifle. Not only is it excessive, it's just poor sportsmanship. Like dynamite fishing. The Monty Python sketch about hunting mosquitoes with bazookas and tanks seems to be the next step.
  Thu. 7/26/12 6:23pm kata:

I'm not sure that being a loner = being murderous.
  Thu. 7/26/12 6:25pm Matt from Springfield:

@Caryn: Especially out West, gun ownership often = feeling of safety. Even if just for their home, the shooting in a movie theater in their state disturbed them and really shattered illusions of safety.
  Thu. 7/26/12 6:25pm seang:

guns are for cowards
  Thu. 7/26/12 6:25pm Honey Water:

I was relating your comment about alienation with him not being a loner. He wasn't alienated from some group of friends. One wonders why those friends couldn't spot his mental health problems.
  Thu. 7/26/12 6:26pm Carmichael:

The big misnomer in that last statement was that gun control is always equated with evil intentions. Can there never be a sound rationale for controlling the distribution of weaponry to the populace? Citizens were worried about being controlled by a domestic or foreign threat; shouldn't the military or law enforcement reasonably be worried about the citizenry rising up en masse?
  Thu. 7/26/12 6:26pm umm:

this has nothing to do with batman?
  Thu. 7/26/12 6:26pm Matt from Springfield:

Clay's no longer a "Virgin"! :)
  Thu. 7/26/12 6:26pm Ike:

Agreed @seang. They keep saying that MORE people should carry a concealed weapon so they can shoot back mass murderers like this, but it's not that simple. You're just as likely to misidentify the perp and shoot other victims also drawing their weapons to defend themselves, or getting shot by police or security who think YOU are the shooter, because you're raising your gun in self-defense.
  Thu. 7/26/12 6:27pm kata:

I hear ya Honeywater... I'm also saying, the USA is effed up. And it seems one is very lucky now to go through life here without getting a therapist or losing your shit at one point or another.
  Thu. 7/26/12 6:29pm Clay:

Hey Ike and Honeywater
  Thu. 7/26/12 6:29pm Matt from Springfield:

@Ike: I believe in allowing for concealed carry, after the person has applied and undergone extensive training like it is now. But, the RATIONAL person would realize the limits of concealed carry, for the reasons you mentioned, as well as the possibly of your gun being grabbed from you as you draw it--putting you in even more danger.
  Thu. 7/26/12 6:29pm Van in dc:

Quick hi bye
  Thu. 7/26/12 6:29pm other david:

The most rabid pro-gun folks, the ones who talk about the right to bear arms as a bulwark to prevent a totalitarian state, often seem to be the same folks who resist any cuts to military spending and the ones who back the patriot act...

I'm in Ireland, I actually own a .22 bolt action rifle - my father and I go out and shoot paper at the range sometimes, it's a bit of fun. I'm also a vegetarian, so um, I'm not going to hunt with it.

When not in use, the guns are locked away in a safe. Guns give me no feeling of security, rather they're a huge burden and responsibility.

Anyway, that's my 2c.
  Thu. 7/26/12 6:30pm Honey Water:

And the nearly universal response to at the very least making assault weapons illegal has been:"Someone that warped would find another way to kill people." How is that responsive to banning assault weapons? I know there's a very graphic analogy to such faulty logic, but it escapes me now.
  Thu. 7/26/12 6:30pm umm:

someone willing to bring a gun into a cinema and shoot multiple members of the public has nothing to do with a batman movie, it's his inner desire to harm simple.
  Thu. 7/26/12 6:30pm Andrew Waterloo:

@Ike, people are also under the false assumption that hand guns are somehow accurate or that they're going to be able to shoot another person under pressure.
  Thu. 7/26/12 6:31pm Bad Ronald:

Unfortunately gun control laws are just like drug control laws. Folks are gonna get their hands on what ever they want any way they can if they need it bad enough. You can build a zip-gun with a curtain rod a 2x4, rubber band and a door latch once you got your hands on some rounds or a bomb with items that can be legally obtained. It wont prevent the perps.
  Thu. 7/26/12 6:31pm Caryn:

I think in some cases, being a "loner" is a consequence and symptom of underlying emotional or psychological problems, which can also lead to other consequences like violent behaviour. But the two symptoms are not causally related to each other. They are just 2 different manifestations of underlying issues. People are loners for many reasons, people are violent for many reasons. Sometimes both coincide.
  Thu. 7/26/12 6:32pm Ken From Hyde Park:

How about that TV show on The Discovery Channel? I think it's called "American Guns" and the people are from Colorado. I caught one episode where they custom-built a .50 caliber hunting rifle for some guy. That seems like a lot of firepower for hunting deer or even elk.
  Thu. 7/26/12 6:32pm Carmichael:

I have to split, but my final salvo is that I don't want to ban weapons. But I do want to control the hell out of 'em. Freedom = responsibility, not privilege.
  Thu. 7/26/12 6:32pm Matt from Springfield:

Yes, OD, a huge RESPONSIBILITY. Especially carrying a concealed handgun--I don't want to do that, I wouldn't even consider that unless I was already a cop for example, and also carried off duty.
  Thu. 7/26/12 6:32pm sfrances:

well said, Caryn
  Thu. 7/26/12 6:33pm Caryn:

The shooter seemed to be doing really well in his studies and have a rich social life until a little under a year ago, when his studies started tanking and he was clearly going through something. Why no-one around him tried to find out what was wrong is what I wonder about.
  Thu. 7/26/12 6:33pm Clay:

See ya Carm. Thanks for stopping by.
  Thu. 7/26/12 6:33pm Ike:

Agreed, Matt, O.D., & Caryn.

Some gun enthusiasts *desperately* want to believe they could EASILY blow away a mass murderer like this, like in a western. But situations like this are much murkier in real life.
  Thu. 7/26/12 6:33pm Honey Water:

@Bad Ronald: You're making that same universal response I've heard all week. The difference is the huge NUMBER of people that can quickly be mowed down by an assault rifle. And the ridiculous argument that if only someone in the theater had had a concealed gun, all would be well: He was wearing full "armor"! A gunfight in the theater would not have stopped him and might well have killed more innocent victims in the line of fire.
  Thu. 7/26/12 6:34pm Andrew Waterloo:

As a loner I can say that I know a lot about animosity and blame. I don't feel that way now. But, it is something I have had to deal with.
  Thu. 7/26/12 6:34pm Matt from Springfield:

Rich social life? I heard that he never really talked with his colleagues and students and was withdrawn? It got substantially worse in the months leading up to now, but it seemed to me he had an inadequate social life.
  Thu. 7/26/12 6:34pm Clay:

You're never alone on the Accuplaylist Andrew!
  Thu. 7/26/12 6:35pm Honey Water:

Wow! We're having almost a mirror here of your weather, Clay! Loud thunderclaps just now -- high winds and downpour imminent.
  Thu. 7/26/12 6:35pm Clay:

Where are you Honeywater?
  Thu. 7/26/12 6:36pm Honey Water:

Southern Indiana, next to Louisville, KY.
  Thu. 7/26/12 6:36pm northguineahills:

needs to go scrub my own toilet bowl.....
  Thu. 7/26/12 6:37pm Clay:

I'm guessing you can use that rain in Indiana.
  Thu. 7/26/12 6:37pm Ken From Hyde Park:

Pretty dark clouds are crossing the Hudson River here now. I can hear the thunder rolling.
  Thu. 7/26/12 6:37pm kata:

hotter than shit out here in portland. All the plastic parts in my car are softening.
  Thu. 7/26/12 6:38pm Bad Ronald:

@ Honey Water: Good point however I believe that if the intent was there and the automatic weapons were not legally available I don't think that would have deterred him.
  Thu. 7/26/12 6:38pm sfrances:

Clay: that last segment was beautiful,thank you for it!
  Thu. 7/26/12 6:38pm Matt from Springfield:

Groan! Still waitin' on the CC4...but I have TONS of swag coming, they're probably waiting for everything smaller to be sent out first! :)
  Thu. 7/26/12 6:38pm Andrew Waterloo:

@Matt, and if he was around people all the time and unable to make substantial connections with them, it would be that much more devastating for him.
  Thu. 7/26/12 6:39pm Honey Water:

Scrolling back up to catch up: OD, you win many points with me for using one of my fave words in a sentence: "bulwark." :)
  Thu. 7/26/12 6:39pm Ike:

This is one of the worst songs I've ever heard in my life. :P
  Thu. 7/26/12 6:39pm Clay:

TY Frances! Patience Matt, like Axl sang.
  Thu. 7/26/12 6:39pm Matt from Springfield:

That's a very good observation, Andrew.
  Thu. 7/26/12 6:39pm Caryn:

@Bad Ronald: through, but if you go through all that to get your hands on a gun, you have to really want one. The fact that in many places, you can have a fight, be pissed off, and immediately go buy a gun and some ammo, leads to plenty of tragedies that might have been avoided by just having the person calm down or sober up. Gun control will never stop all gun violence, but, hell, health care isn't going to stop all death ever, but it's best to try and prevent easily avoidable tragedies.
  Thu. 7/26/12 6:40pm kata:

y'all crack me up.
  Thu. 7/26/12 6:40pm Clay:

I love that song, Ike. We differ. You like that Haircut 100 type thing.
  Thu. 7/26/12 6:40pm Matt from Springfield:

"Shrill, loud, disgusting, not very seductive.." HEY! METAL RECORDER! Tell the metalheads about this, it'll give the recorder a new life!! :D
  Thu. 7/26/12 6:40pm Honey Water:

@Bad Ronald: No, I don't believe it would have either. But when there's not a single GOOD / VALID reason for allowing ANYone -- perfectly sane or not -- to buy multi-round assault weapons, why NOT ban them? I don't see anything compelling to suggest otherwise.
  Thu. 7/26/12 6:41pm Ike:

I don't think I know Haircut 100! Now I must investigate.
  Thu. 7/26/12 6:42pm sfrances:

Haircut 100: Start with "Boy Meets Girl"
  Thu. 7/26/12 6:42pm kata:

wow, Clay, you don't sound 6'1" ;P (stealing your emoticon Ike)
  Thu. 7/26/12 6:43pm Clay:

Ike, who are your favorites? Curious.
  Thu. 7/26/12 6:43pm Ken From Hyde Park:

When they get the funicular running again, it'll be fun to take the train up and look down on the old river. http://www.inclinerailway.org/

Also, it is raining heavily here now.
  Thu. 7/26/12 6:43pm Andrew Waterloo:

At least when you buy guns from the black market you have to know people and people have to know you're out looking for a weapon. Could Holmes have found and bought as much hardware on the black market? Could he have done it without raising somebody's alarm?
  Thu. 7/26/12 6:44pm Clay:

Do I sound shorter, Kata?
  Thu. 7/26/12 6:44pm Bad Ronald:

To quote an abused cliche - Freedom. Again, I refer to the concept of "controlled substances".
  Thu. 7/26/12 6:45pm Caryn:

I'm going to complain about the technique of the musician in the background. Work on your breathing technique! You're going off-key and shrill by blowing too sharply!
  Thu. 7/26/12 6:45pm Matt from Springfield:

@Clay: Where did you get that soundbite "Yes, put the money in the skull!" :)
  Thu. 7/26/12 6:45pm other david:

thanks Honey Water :)

wordy rappinghood!
  Thu. 7/26/12 6:46pm Clay:

Matt: From an album called 'Margie and the Secret Hideout Gang.' A Christian LP on the WORD label.
  Thu. 7/26/12 6:46pm Honey Water:

F-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-far --- love this!
  Thu. 7/26/12 6:47pm kata:

I was just kidding Clay ! :) I don't know what you look like. In my mind you are the image of Professor Fred. If you ever lived in Seattle or Portland and watched public access late at night, only then would you be familiar with Fred. You two have much in common.
  Thu. 7/26/12 6:47pm seang:

business as usual cue Men at Work
  Thu. 7/26/12 6:48pm Matt from Springfield:

@Clay: Thanks! Rather macabre, lo-tech and minimalist--Iiiiiiiii, like it!
  Thu. 7/26/12 6:49pm Matt from Springfield:

@kata: Search "Clay Pigeon WFMU" on Google Images :)
  Thu. 7/26/12 6:50pm Clay:

I'll check him out Kata!
  Thu. 7/26/12 6:50pm kata:

oh here is Fred: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DsOIzezkuS8
  Thu. 7/26/12 6:51pm Ike:

@Clay, hmm, I barely know where to begin. At random -- P.J. Harvey, Metric, Arcade Fire (uncool to admit here, but whatever), Stump (look for their "A Fierce Pancake" LP in the station library), Blackalicious, Steve Roach, and... hey nice Talking Heads track there... and some of the stuff Fabio & Scott & Bryce play like Magic Lantern, Big Blood, and Can.
  Thu. 7/26/12 6:52pm Honey Water:

I like the mental images I conjure up for all radio personalities. I don't want to see pictures of the real people if I can avoid it.
  Thu. 7/26/12 6:53pm Clay:

My show might go overtime because of the weather announcements. If so, I'll put it up in its entirity on the archives. Andy will be here soon. Thanks for listening! Appreciate it. Have a great weekend and ... always remember.
  Thu. 7/26/12 6:53pm Philo Gristle:

I like that "Fierce pancake" references The Third Policeman....
  Thu. 7/26/12 6:53pm Honey Water:

That's what is so refreshing about radio for me: Allows my imagination to supply the visual landscapes.
  Thu. 7/26/12 6:53pm Clay:

Wow, Ike. Thanks for the list. Some good stuff. I'm just an old 70's throwback.
  Thu. 7/26/12 6:53pm kata:

me too HW ! I see Clay with my heart only <3 like Le Petit Prince
  Thu. 7/26/12 6:55pm Caryn:

Have to say that the video stream of the Hoof & Mouth Symphonia surprised me about a lot of the DJs. Plenty of people on the comments board seemed equally surprised, right up to the "wait, he's white?"/"wait, he's black?" statements.
  Thu. 7/26/12 6:55pm drewo:

Great interview with methadone man Clay. thanks.
  Thu. 7/26/12 6:55pm Honey Water:

:) OK, bye everyone! Thanks for this tonight, Clay! Everyone who's getting a storm, hope you have a fine shelter. Those who need rain, I send you a rain-dance vibe: }}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}
  Thu. 7/26/12 6:57pm sfrances:

Always Remember back atcha, it's been great to listen to this live again! missed it the past couple weeks.
  Thu. 7/26/12 6:57pm other david:

great interview clay & excellent show - thanks

nice talking to all you commenty folks as always too :)
  Thu. 7/26/12 6:58pm Philo Gristle:

Great show, equally good playlist. Thanks Clay! Always remember.... remember the Coop. I hope I hope you don't forget me or nuthin... goodbye!
  Thu. 7/26/12 6:58pm Bureaucracy:

Did he just say Barackracy ?
  Thu. 7/26/12 6:58pm kata:

nice evening y'all
  Thu. 7/26/12 6:58pm Matt from Springfield:

Great show, nice thoughts on it!
Have a good night! AR!
  Thu. 7/26/12 6:59pm Caryn:

Interesting show and comments board, so good work, everyone!
  Thu. 7/26/12 7:00pm Brutal Honesty:

Thanks Clay!
  Thu. 7/26/12 7:00pm david:

TY CP
  Thu. 7/26/12 7:03pm Dan Carlos:

Checking in late but wanted to say great show today Clay!
  Fri. 7/27/12 3:05pm Clay Pigeon:

Thanks so much for your comments. I really enjoy them.
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