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Options November 4, 2010: w/ Matt LeMay talkin' bout Art vs Content
Matt LeMay is a writer, musician, coder and generally thinky/talky dude. His latest article, "Living in the Age of Art vs Content", is an in-depth answer to the question Zach Baron posed in the Village Voice: "Is It Possible to Sell Out in 2010?", and to Steve Albini dissin Sonic Youth for their Major Label move. We'll try not to say too many brand names over the course of this 12-minute convo.

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Artist Track Album Label Comments New Approx. start time
Flipper  Talk's Cheap   Options         0:00:00 ()
Guided By Voices  Shocker in Gloomtown   Options The Grand Hour  Scat      0:03:05 ()
Drunks With Guns  Wonderful Subdivision   Options Drunks With Guns  Behemoth      0:03:34 ()
Thrones  Wage War   Options Sundries (Fall Tour 2010)  self-released 
dif version available on a new 7'' on Conspiracy
and hey didja catch the WFMU live session??
 
  0:08:56 ()
Telegraph Avenue  Let Me Start   Options Telegraph Avenue  Repsychled      0:14:56 ()
Peter Hammill  Nobody's Business   Options Nadir's Big Chance        0:17:25 ()
The Fleshtones  New Scenes   Options It's Super Rock Time: The IRS Years 1980-1985  Raven      0:21:27 ()
Vomit Squad  Howard Ruark   Options Amon Ra Bless America  Psychic Handshake    *   0:24:21 ()
Angel Face  12 1/2   Options Wolf City Blues        0:26:00 ()
Minitel  Astre   Options Streisand 7''  Bruit Direct Disques      0:28:35 ()
 
Shogun Kunitoki  Daniel   Options Tasankokaiku  Fonal  Minor Musics: Finland series @ ISSUE Project Room    0:40:45 ()
Neu  Danzing   Options '86  Gronland      0:43:11 ()
Flying Lotus  Jurassic Notion/M Theory   Options Pattern + Grid World  Warp    *   0:48:05 ()
Pregnant  Tribe   Options Regional Music LP  Life's Blood    *   0:51:08 ()
Lucky Dragons  Power Melody   Options Open Power 12'' EP    Free Music Archive    0:54:54 ()
Dustin Wong  Anniversary Song   Options     Free Music Archive    0:59:46 ()
 
Music behind DJ:
 
talkin' cheap w/ Matt LeMay      
Matt LeMay is a writer, musician, coder and generally thinky/talky dude. His latest article, "Living in the Age of Art vs Content", is an in-depth answer to the question Zach Baron posed in the Village Voice: "Is It Possible to Sell Out in 2010?", and to Steve Albini dissin Sonic Youth for their Major Label move. We'll try not to say too many brand names over the course of this 12-minute convo.
 
  1:24:42 ()
Pierced Arrows  In My Brain   Options     Free Music Archive    1:30:03 ()
The Paparazzi  The Rococo Tape   Options Ampeater's BreakThruRadio Compilation  Ampeater Music  Free Music Archive    1:33:28 ()
My Teenage Stride  Dr. Dayglo   Options 5 new songs    Free Music Archive    1:35:18 ()
Transmitters  Radio Studente   Options Count Your Blessings (1987-1989)  You Are Not Stealing Records  Free Music Archive
big shout out to Katya/Oddio Overplay for introducing Portugal's You Are Not Stealing Records to the FMA!
 
  1:37:01 ()
G.G. Allin's Dick  Chaos Theory for a Box of Toys   Options King of the Road  You Are Not Stealing Records  Free Music Archive    1:41:52 ()
James Yates  A72   Options Bad Panda #54  Bad Panda Records  Free Music Archive  *   1:46:21 ()
Blah Blah Blah  In The Army   Options Gold Collection    Free Music Archive    1:50:29 ()
Mastermind XS  Memories of a machine   Options One dub many roots  LCL (LibreCommeLair)  Free Music Archive  *   1:56:05 ()
Raleigh Moncrief  Cheese Steak   Options         2:00:24 ()
 
Teferi Felleqe  Kelkeyelegn   Options Ethiopiques Volume 3: Golden Years of Modern Ethiopian Music 1969-1975  Buda Musique      2:09:32 ()
Thomas Mapfumo & The Acid Band  Pfumvu Pa Ruzevha (Hardships in the Rural Areas)   Options The Chimurenga Singles 1976-1980  Meadowlark      2:13:09 ()
Manzanita y su Conjunto  Agua   Options The roots of Chicha 2: Psychedelic Cumbias from Peru [V/A]  Barbes Records    *   2:17:21 ()
The Psychedelic Aliens  Okponmo Ni Tsitsi Emo Le   Options Psycho African Beat  Voodoo Funk    *   2:20:41 ()
Olympus  Ere I Die   Options Bold Mould  Stabbies Etc. / Soft Abuse  (not "Is Love an Emotion?")  *   2:23:38 ()
Earth  German Dental Work   Options A Bureaucratic Desire for Extra-Capsular Extraction  Southern Lord  reissued  *   2:28:33 ()
Timmy's Organism  Silver Mountain   Options Rise of the Green Gorilla  Sacred Bones    *   2:34:01 ()
Bruce Haack  Ancient Mariner   Options Farad: The Electric Voice  Stones Throw    *   2:36:27 ()
Giorgio Moroder  Warum (Why)   Options Einzelganger  Oasis      2:40:29 ()
I-F  Runner   Options The West Coast Electro Sound of Holland: The Hague Rocks the Planet #2        2:43:27 ()
Steve Cauthen  I Feel Like Thanking Everyone   Options 7''    record fair find!    2:55:07 ()

Listener comments!

  Thu. 11/4/10 9:03am Steve L:

Dear God, Flipper opens another work day for me. Certainly the end times are near.
  Thu. 11/4/10 9:03am Cheri Pi:

G'mornin Jason and the rest of you!
  Thu. 11/4/10 9:05am jason:

makin' the end times happy times
  Thu. 11/4/10 9:05am Cheri Pi:

Steve L.., I was thinking the same!
  Thu. 11/4/10 9:08am Elwyn:

Gosh I love that GbV song so much!
  Thu. 11/4/10 9:10am Cheri Pi:

Joe Preston for heavy president.
  Thu. 11/4/10 9:11am Tom:

Mornin! Diggin it all.
  Thu. 11/4/10 9:15am dc pat:

Hi. Bye.
  Thu. 11/4/10 9:19am BSI:

This Hammill teeters pretty close to the sound of Robert Calvert's early solo concept LPs. Good stuff.
  Thu. 11/4/10 9:26am joe:

hey jason, let's write a song about a worker in one of converse's factories and apply to record it at "Rubber Tracks," their coming culture factory. or maybe a cover of "richard cory" (u know, by simon & garfunkel)? discuss! sincerely, joe
  Thu. 11/4/10 9:31am Cheri Pi:

I think the word needs to get out that Nike has owned Converse since 2003, I stand behind this song idea.
  Thu. 11/4/10 9:38am jaw:

Yep, terminal 5 sucks
  Thu. 11/4/10 9:38am dc pat:

wait what did King Kahn do now?
  Thu. 11/4/10 9:39am jason:

dc pat i thought you were leavin. he played in another band and made another record called "amon ra bless america"
  Thu. 11/4/10 9:40am Robert:

Which was nearly the title of your show: "Wonderful Subdivision", or "Drunks With Guns"?
  Thu. 11/4/10 9:41am jason:

hey Robert, it was almost called "Wonderful Subdivision". would yall've rather heard that song at thestart each week?
  Thu. 11/4/10 9:42am Robert:

Sorry, just streamed in, didn't hear it.
  Thu. 11/4/10 9:42am dc pat:

Oh is THAT all? yeah, busy today so in and out.
  Thu. 11/4/10 9:44am Robert:

Is it like 'Subdivisions" by Rush, only more wonderful?
  Thu. 11/4/10 9:45am Tom:

Be cool or be cast out
  Thu. 11/4/10 9:46am Talk's Creep:

Digging the black and yellow color scheme here. wu tang colors! and yes, you can sell out in 2010. unless you're in the tea party. then you're safe.
  Thu. 11/4/10 9:46am Robert:

That's what I say to the stuff in my refrigerator.
  Thu. 11/4/10 9:49am Aaron:

flying Lotus - NICEEEEE
  Thu. 11/4/10 9:57am Bicklespume:

Time to get pregnant with Lucky Dragons all around...

fistula glory!
  Thu. 11/4/10 10:03am joe:

i luke may be taken... but maybe he's down w/ surrogate fatherhood!
  Thu. 11/4/10 10:12am Small Key:

If there's no artistic and personal integrity going into it, there's no integrity that's going to show up later either.
  Thu. 11/4/10 10:12am bw:

so it really art vs content or ads vs content!
  Thu. 11/4/10 10:15am Rodney:

Someone please post a link to the Rollins video discussed here.
  Thu. 11/4/10 10:16am dc pat:

yes music = music; which to me is the foundation of wfmu. Stravinsky and Howlin Wolf and the minutemen are all in the same boat to me.
  Thu. 11/4/10 10:17am tim from champaign:

Is there a risk of brand sponsorship doing a bait and switch? What happens when Scion figures out that having Pierced Arrows and The Spits playing at their sponsored fest doesn't sell more cars?
  Thu. 11/4/10 10:17am bw:

dc pat - right on!
  Thu. 11/4/10 10:19am Small Key:

Contracts tend to last much longer than the themes of any one ad campaign.
  Thu. 11/4/10 10:21am Talk's Creep:

some of this stuff makes me feel like music is supposed to be approached in a library with bad lighting and serious faces. aren't daily routines typically invaded by the upsetting, inconvenient or disruptive? i feel like art is more reflective of the day-to-day, not escapist
  Thu. 11/4/10 10:21am Liz B.:

Here's a link to the Henry Rollins vid:
http://blogs.villagevoice.com/music/2010/11/henry_rollins_v.php
  Thu. 11/4/10 10:21am dc pat:

I hated Sandanista when I fist got it. Now it's one of my faves but that has nothing to do with how much I paid for it. That I don't get.
  Thu. 11/4/10 10:24am dc pat:

what about not caring if people like your music?
  Thu. 11/4/10 10:26am dc pat:

can we get a link to the article he's talking about too?
  Thu. 11/4/10 10:26am dc pat:

damn just saw the links...
  Thu. 11/4/10 10:27am Tom:

I liked Albini's comment about John Peel: "He said something once that I thought was really profound: He said that no one would bother making a record and sending it to him if they thought it was shitty. Obviously, to the people making those records, they are important. If he doesn't get it as a listener, if he didn't like it in some way, that's his fault, not the fault of the people who did something important to them."
  Thu. 11/4/10 10:28am Small Key:

As if bands that already eat crappy food on tour can now be supported by those same companies. Bring on McDonald's records. Micky D Raps.
  Thu. 11/4/10 10:29am joe:

this has been very illuminating, thank you jason & matt!
  Thu. 11/4/10 10:29am Lulu:

myspace is tacky.
  Thu. 11/4/10 10:29am rosh:

i respect bands/artists that make it difficult to find and even enjoy their music.There's nothing snobbish about having control over your music distro especially in this day & age of high accessibility.
  Thu. 11/4/10 10:30am bw:

great segment
  Thu. 11/4/10 10:30am dc pat:

I agree rosh. Great discussion though.
  Thu. 11/4/10 10:30am Cecile Cloutier:

dang I missed it. But I'll catch it as archives. Working at home is cool. Pierced Arrows!
  Thu. 11/4/10 10:31am Tom:

bw come home, mom n I miss you
  Thu. 11/4/10 10:32am bw:

tom: never comin back!
  Thu. 11/4/10 10:34am Bicklespume:

thought provoking conversation----not unimportant things to dwell on---- There will always be those in any age that consume music more than listen to it for what it is, with deeper feeling, and so forth, and those that will always feel music or bands/artists are simply adjuncts to their lifestyle, a sort of ephemeral accessory to what they wish to project themselves to be to X, at some particular time... This topic is easy to roll off into so many other vectors! Talks Cheap...Respect...!
  Thu. 11/4/10 10:35am rosh:

totally great discussion. nothing like a good old "the new medium is killing our old ways of music" discourse to set us nerds off @ 10 am. can't wait to read this Village Voice article.
  Thu. 11/4/10 10:38am Cheri Pi:

Love that My Teenage Stride lick.
  Thu. 11/4/10 10:39am jason:

@Small Key: there are some bands that fuel their vans on discarded grease from mcdonald's
  Thu. 11/4/10 10:52am rosh:

@jason:yeah but there's a huge difference b/w a band taking corporate waste(literally) & converting that into free fuel VS. corporations financing a band's release/tour/career. That said, Mickey D's DID put out a sick flexi...
  Thu. 11/4/10 10:52am jason:

...should i play some Neon Indian???
  Thu. 11/4/10 10:57am Dylan:

Another shoe-music tidbit from behind enemy lines: When I catered the Public Enemy "Vans House" opening party all the artists had to give a shout out to Vans. Chuck D: "Vans since 1966, I can get down with that!"
  Thu. 11/4/10 11:05am Cheri Pi:

NOOOOO! Play Indian Jewelry instead.
  Thu. 11/4/10 11:06am henry rollins:

what happened to me?
  Thu. 11/4/10 11:07am oh just relax:

Henry Rollins > The Cake Shop
  Thu. 11/4/10 11:10am BetterJudgment:

...you should probably play some "Who's Got The 10 1/2?"
  Thu. 11/4/10 11:10am jason:

imagine this song backwards...
  Thu. 11/4/10 11:10am henry rollins:

grammy award > henry rollins
  Thu. 11/4/10 11:11am henry rollins:

todd p > henry rollins
  Thu. 11/4/10 11:11am Cecile Cloutier:

Henry, I always call you "Hammering Hank" in my daily life. I think it fits.
  Thu. 11/4/10 11:13am Cheri Pi:

Is it me or did anyone else get an 'FMU magnet set in the mail?
  Thu. 11/4/10 11:13am God:

henry rollins is not god > henry rollins is god
  Thu. 11/4/10 11:14am Tom:

On my xmas list: http://www.sternsmusic.com/disk_info.php?id=3218462
  Thu. 11/4/10 11:14am Cecile Cloutier:

CHeri, I did! I was so excited. I put it with my FOTC magnets.
  Thu. 11/4/10 11:15am dc pat:

ah, I don't think that video's any big deal. That's Henry, either love him or leave him. His job is to make you feel uncomfortable.
  Thu. 11/4/10 11:16am dc pat:

so now let's hear Rise Above
  Thu. 11/4/10 11:17am Tom:

Yeah, Henry has been at it like that for years. And lifting weights.
  Thu. 11/4/10 11:18am Cecile Cloutier:

And telling some very funny stories.
  Thu. 11/4/10 11:19am Cheri Pi:

I want to put the Rocket ship magnet on my car, but I'm afraid the jealous neighbors will steal it.
  Thu. 11/4/10 11:22am Tom:

something else just made my xmas list!
  Thu. 11/4/10 11:24am Cecile Cloutier:

Is love an emoticon?

<3

Yes. Yes, it is.
  Thu. 11/4/10 11:28am Cheri Pi:

It's my favourite emoticon!
  Thu. 11/4/10 11:31am Tom:

Rollins biceps cannot be emoticonized.
  Thu. 11/4/10 11:32am holland oats:

i <3 emotion
  Thu. 11/4/10 11:35am rosh:

ugh,just saw the rollins thing.the woman he's reeming out is totally cool,smart,hard working punk woman.He totally attacked the least trust fund hipster kid there. i like rollins generally but damn,he's showing his knee jerk reactionary paranoia in that vid.
  Thu. 11/4/10 11:38am holland oats:

@rosh - link?
  Thu. 11/4/10 11:38am rosh:

here's one: http://stereogum.com/566652/henry-rollins-scolds-young-elitist-hipters-at-the-cake-shop/video/
  Thu. 11/4/10 11:40am dc pat:

rosh: I agree but she also defends herself ok against a pretty intimidating old fart.
  Thu. 11/4/10 11:44am Marcel:

Great set today. Perfect for the NY rainy scene
  Thu. 11/4/10 11:44am Cheri Pi:

This is the futuristic music I was promised in all of those Jetsons episodes.
  Thu. 11/4/10 11:47am holland oats:

@rosh - thnx - rollins, what a needledick douche - if only 'damaged' wasn't one of my favorite records of all time
  Thu. 11/4/10 11:49am Dylan:

EXCELLENT
  Thu. 11/4/10 11:51am jeff:

hey jason, hey matt. i've been in class all morning and still am, but i have made an imaginary version of this conversation in my mind and it is full of witty quips and pointed observations! in that order.
  Thu. 11/4/10 11:57am rosh:

dc pat: totally, but it's not about her reaction,it's that he got in her space,tells them to sshhh,and later says "counting down to where the chick mouths off". Love BF & even had pleasant exchanges with him but none of that excuses him being,as holland oats so eloquently stated, a needledick douche.
  Thu. 11/4/10 11:57am Cecile Cloutier:

Is that Steve Cauthen, the jockey?
  Thu. 11/4/10 11:58am Cecile Cloutier:

wow, that's a good little song.
  Thu. 11/4/10 11:58am dc pat:

well like I said, take him or leave him. This ain't nothing new for him.
  Thu. 11/4/10 12:00pm Cheri Pi:

Double Joe Preston today!
  Thu. 11/4/10 12:00pm rosh:

dc pat: sadly, i know this. i i take what i like & leave the rest. have a good one,everyone!
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