WFMU: Bodega Pop with Gary Sullivan: Playlist from December 7, 2022

Listener comments!
	🇰🇷 ♥ 6:57pm Listener Gregory: Looking forward to this show. Great theme.
	♥ 6:58pm Gary: Evening, Gregory! Hope it connects with you
	🇰🇷 ♥ 7:01pm chresti: Me too LG! Hi Gary bodega show!
	♥ 7:01pm Gary: The Chresti!
	🇰🇷 ♥ 7:03pm WR: Lay it on us, Gary.
	♥ 7:05pm Gary: Hello there, WR!
	7:15pm peter: Hello Gary & all!
	7:16pm Polyus: Hey there Gary, good to hear yez
	♥ 7:16pm Gary: Peter, good evening, and look, it's Polyus, too!
	♥ 7:18pm ironybread: Ah, bless these bleeps and bloops
	♥ 7:19pm Gary: Ironybread!
	♥ 7:20pm ironybread: Gary! Chresti! WR! Evvybuddy!
	7:21pm Listener Gregory: Liked that Cyber Oracle. It had a nice combination of the traditional (I guess) and contemporary.
	♥ 7:25pm TDK60: Ho Gary.
	♥ 7:26pm Gary: TDK60!
	7:26pm Earthenware: This track is soooooo great
	♥ 7:27pm Gary: Earthenware! We agree
	♥ 7:27pm melinda: hi friends
	♥ 7:27pm Gary: Melinda!
	♥ 7:28pm northguineahills: I wish that cheba wahida track wasn't as compressed, it was gorgeous.
	♥ 7:29pm northguineahills: most contemporary rai has autotune, but it works in their context...
	7:30pm Earthenware: Avant pop
	♥ 7:32pm TDK60: Gary, I like that you think a term like avant garde is elastic. Autotune-- depends on the specific track. I don't like it in a lot of pop. But, depends..
	♥ 7:35pm Gary: NGH!
	♥ 7:36pm Gary: NGH, it might have sounded more compressed because I ripped it from vinyl rather than playing FLACs
	7:36pm peter: I swear I didn’t coin “workstation pop” but I think last time I searched I couldn’t find its origin..
	7:37pm Listener Gregory: This Al Qadiri may exceed my reverb limit.
	7:41pm peter: Fatima is the best
	♥ 7:44pm Gary: Is it possible, peter, you used "workstation luk thung"? That's the phrase I remember, but I don't have the best memory
	♥ 7:46pm northguineahills: workstation pop (n.) music motifs descended from genres that were originally commercially oriented and to be received by a wide audience. This music is created on a home computer workstation. First documented by 'peter' ( www.wfmu.org... , 7/22/2022 ).
	🇰🇷 ♥ 7:47pm Listener Gregory: The Urban Dictionary definition is way too obscene to repeat here.
	♥ 7:48pm northguineahills: anything found in the urban dictionary is way to obscene to be repeated anywhere...(to the urban dictionary!)
	7:52pm rw: Hi! Wow! Nice.
	🇰🇷 ♥ 7:52pm Listener Gregory: I guess it's just me who has problems with all this echo. I spent enough time in huge churches as a child that I don't really want to repeat the sonic experience. And I think it's sometimes a kind of cheap way to try to generate profundity.
	♥ 7:55pm TDK60: Listener Gregory. I do like reverb/echo. But I could see tiring of it, if it gets too reverby all the time, like those surf bands in '62.
	♥ 7:55pm Gary: Gregory, I feel you -- there's a similar phenomenon in contemporary poetry with repetition
	♥ 7:56pm Gary: sustain / repetition connotes seriousness & depth, without actually providing it
	7:57pm rw: Ha! Was just trying to figure out how to say what TDK and Gary just said. I'm glad you guys let me hang out here.
	7:59pm Dean: Echoes are triggers? How does one live a life when one is so utterly sensitive to the noise of the world? Or am I not getting the sarcasm? I hope this is the case, because if it isn't then I will unload the manifold circumstances that cause me to curl into a babbling baby. The trauma I have suffered is limitless.
	♥ 7:59pm northguineahills: i find redundancy profound and cyclically deep ;p
	8:04pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Evening !
	♥ 8:05pm Gary: RevRab!
	🇰🇷 ♥ 8:07pm chresti: Backward announcing is logical.
	8:07pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: This Is Your Brain on Echo
	♥ 8:08pm northguineahills: wow, sheilab played Fatima Al Qadiri in april, 2021....
	♥ 8:09pm melinda: digging the sounds tonight
	🇰🇷 ♥ 8:09pm chresti: Ha RevRab
	♥ 8:09pm TDK60: Interesting how sounds, effects, timbres, can affect us in so many ways. Or preferences or not, for certain instruments.
	8:12pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: As the fellow in my Tar today said - 'Technique is just a way of arriving @ a Statement' ...but - does it Arrive ? - & what is the Statement ? For instance - of late I've been really irritated by repetitive machine Rhythms in Music.
	♥ 8:13pm TDK60: Or, how it can change too. Ex: I admit that, by 1980, I was just fried on wah-wahs. (I loved them in '68.) Hee.
	8:13pm Listener Gregory: Don’t know what that was, but Logical Da9ud also combined some interesting sounds.
	8:14pm Listener Gregory: @RevRab, agreed.
	8:14pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: I'm glued to my wah-wah - as my only pedal ! But I use as just a tone control &/or to control feedback often as not.
	🇰🇷 ♥ 8:19pm chresti: Beautifu! I shall go look at the moon now..
	8:22pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ...I'm goofing of course on the book 'This Is Your Brain on Music' - which ventures to barely begin to inquire into just what TDK60 speaks of @ 8:09. The Full ☽Moon is occulting (passing over) ♂︎Mars - which is interesting...
	♥ 8:22pm TDK60: Hi chresti \\// Can we get a Moon report later?
	8:35pm Listener Gregory: Turning my speakers all the way up! ALL!
	♥ 8:36pm Gary: haha
	8:42pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: داوود = 'Dawoud' (sp?) = David ?? (Of which I am one.)
	🇰🇷 ♥ 8:42pm chresti: Copy that TDK60, moon was full- positioned next to it at 8 o'clock, was a bright small red dot- rose @4:20 pst. \\//
	8:43pm Listener Gregory: My speakers are laughing at this. Is this your worst?
	♥ 8:44pm Gary: Haha, oh well
	🇰🇷 ♥ 8:46pm chresti: my earbuds are like bumble bees in my ears- I like it!
	♥ 8:48pm ironybread: Saw the moon just now, can confirm it's good shit
	♥ 8:50pm DL in LA: Hello Gary, sounding good! Hey I’ve always been curious, when you rip vinyl, do you try to digitally clean up the surface noise?
	8:52pm Listener Gregory: This is good. Also, I also have a moon even though it rained off and on all day. Good times!
	♥ 8:52pm Gary: DL! I do very minimal "click removal" and then go searching for specific clicks that I hear. Nothing too drastic. That said, tonight we've only heard one vinyl rip so far, the Cheba Wahida. Everything else has been FLAC. I've got two more vinyl rips coming up later, we'll see how they compare
	♥ 8:54pm Gary: NGH mentioned that the Cheba Wahida sounded "compressed" and I wonder if it does so because vinyl and how it would sound from FLACs downloaded from Bandcamp
	8:55pm tim abdellah: Hi Gary and Friends!
	8:55pm Gilly: Came here for “if you lose your horse” but this will do. Funky.
	♥ 8:56pm Gary: Tim! Gilly! Gilly, we've got another hour and five before Sam
	8:56pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Interesting indeed to hear such contemporary sounds in an 'Arabic voice' as it were. You never disappoint Gary !
	8:58pm Gilly: Sam is a long time pal I can’t wait for him to absolutely kill it tonight ! So are you tho!!!!
	9:03pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: It's - perhaps - like talking about Recorded Music in the same way one would Painting or Graphic Art. That was kind of George Martin's premise, for instance.
	♥ 9:03pm ironybread: ...yes, Portishead I think
	🇰🇷 ♥ 9:04pm Zipperhead7: Hi Gary and Bodegans! Just tuning in and yep, this is pretty outré. Hmmm . . .textures . . . would Barthes' "The Grain of the Voice" count?
	♥ 9:04pm ironybread: Track "Batucada" by Towa Tei was the first cut that made me think of sample resolution as an aesthetic shoice, because the root sample in the song is so rough it's almost 8-bit
	9:06pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ...& in the Analog vs. Digital consideration - the great Mastering Engineers very much contend they knew the limitations of the Dynamic Range they were working in - & in the better instances - used it Artfully. Into the Digital Era - & it may be we've been seduced by potential increased Dynamic Range without so much of that...
	♥ 9:07pm Gary: Zipperhead! Yes, I think so
	♥ 9:09pm northguineahills: @RevRabbit: yes, dawoud would be david. and boy, is there already a wfmu theme song for the likes of you!
	9:10pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ...like Beatles' Engineer Geoff Emerick spoke of a lady commenting that on the Remastered (if not Remixed?) Sgt. Pepper - she could finally tell one sound was a cowbell. The problem he said - they worked hard so you could not tell... Not sure how applicable that is to the Portishead situation or the general drift here...
	🇰🇷 ♥ 9:10pm Zipperhead7: A wiseass student of mine once wrote an essay on Barthes and titled it "Roland the Headless Semiologist"
	9:11pm Listener Gregory: Great comments on texture, Gary. It is definitely underrated. Some of my favorite rock albums are those that have a rich, grungy texture.
	9:13pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: I might posit TheWho's first album as an example. The CD is clearer - but ...but... Mono mixes are often punchier than Stereo too...
	♥ 9:14pm Gary: SPEAKING OF -- Tim gifted me some FLACs of the new Revolver stereo album and I loved them so much I went out and got the vinyl. Part of what I liked was that the tracks did NOT have the punchiness of the mono -- they were richer than I remembered them sounding as a kid
	♥ 9:15pm Gary: I was shocked to hear some cowbell in Revolver, speaking of
	🇰🇷 ♥ 9:17pm Zipperhead7: I always thought that when the big Phil Spector CD box set came out years ago,he purposely torpedoed the mix. The tracks are so dry they're arid, completely devoid of warmth. A "Back to Mono" button was included with the first pressings.
	♥ 9:17pm Ike: Meow!
	♥ 9:18pm Gary: Ike!
	9:19pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: A prominent impression went they just Remastered TheBeatles in 2009 was I had a lot of tambourine & the like a few inches from my face ! :D Yeah - DJ GeorgyGirl played new Revolver trax... My first impression was yeah Clarity ...tho 'Love You To' sounded less electric & more subdued. The contempo bias in favor of Drum & Bass end might make them Rawk more - but Revolver was (/is) specifically Druggy - it should hit you in a certain way. I commented about the MBV 'Loveless' album that it's like shooting up elektrik gittar. There's some comparison to Revolver in some way there ...Texture indeed.
	🇰🇷 ♥ 9:20pm doctorjazz: Hi met some friends for dinner, back at the ranch!
	♥ 9:20pm zzz: hey @Gary and all. quite the show theme. this track fits the bill. this reminds me of the derek bailey with jamaladeen tacuma and calvin weston release.gnarly!
	♥ 9:21pm Gary: Dr. Jazz and Zzz, welcome!
	🇰🇷 ♥ 9:21pm doctorjazz: Like the new Revolver, the outtakes are cool!
	🇰🇷 ♥ 9:21pm doctorjazz: (as usual, haven't had enough time to listen to it a lot)
	9:22pm tim abdellah: Glad you dug the Beatle FLACs!
	9:22pm Listener Gregory: OK, now we are getting down to business.
	9:23pm tim abdellah: This Karkhana track sounds nothing like the popular Tunisian song Sidi Mansour :)
	9:23pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Oh outtakes absolutely. But that almost underscores the thing about seduction ...whatever the intentions of TheBeatles - I will greedily be informed of everything that happened @ AbbeyRoad that they can reveal to me. I fear becoming a Tourist in my own Culture, so to speak ...yet I also make the argument AppleCorp. should start thinking in terms of History @ this juncture.
	♥ 9:24pm Gary: @Tim haha
	9:24pm tim abdellah: But their Bandcamp page says "Sidi Mansour... is a Tunisian folk theme by Cheikh Mohamed Boudaya"
	♥ 9:27pm zzz: looks like sam shalabi is on here on guitar/oud. cool! hearing him amways brings me back to my montreal days, local experimental guitar hero
	9:28pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ...almost Arabic FreeJazz ...always maintain that Free is actually more from Roots forms & in a sense more 'Traditional' anyhow...
	9:29pm tim abdellah: Ah... there's that Sidi Mansour theme!
	9:29pm tim abdellah: You could do an entire show based on versions of this tune!
	9:30pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ...like the Alap before the Raga gets down to business maybe...
	9:30pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: - as analogy - Raga is Indian of course...
	9:31pm tim abdellah: @revrab - yeah!
	9:32pm tim abdellah: I recently found out that Boney M based a track on the tune in 1977! en.wikipedia.org...
	♥ 9:33pm northguineahills: @zzz: bailey/tacuma/weston,. wait, wait, what!!!!!???? my ears need to hears....
	9:35pm Dean: @zzz: I saw Shalabi at Victo one year. Big fan of luteness.
	♥ 9:36pm northguineahills: also @zzz: I'm having a conversation about music days in montreal right now (well, the online communocation conversation kind)
	9:37pm Dean: Montreal is definitely a critical site, as is Guelph.
	♥ 9:38pm Gary: Tim perhaps I'll have to conscript you to help put together such a show!
	♥ 9:39pm DL in LA: FLAC sounded more pure, and the rip sounded more alive and visceral, but I liked both!
	9:39pm Dean: And... Milli Vanilli?!
	♥ 9:43pm zzz: @ngh : Mirakle put out on tzadik. it’s really good stuff www.discogs.com...
	9:43pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Milli Vanilli ...now everyone's a Star miming on TikTok...
	9:44pm tim abdellah: OMG Dean - my mind is now blown! I had no idea!
	♥ 9:44pm zzz: lived in montreal 6 nice years never made it to victo.
	9:46pm Dean: Victo was--probably still is--a well run festival, no chance of missing an act because you wanted to go to another, everybody was cool. And the music was exquisite.
	♥ 9:48pm Gary: Hey Kids! Stick around after this mess for Sam Segal's always-already exquisite If You Lose Your Horse! Tonight's episode, "Are You or Is Someone You Know a Horse?" wfmu.org...
	♥ 9:50pm zzz: closest i got to it is having a live CD from the festival of a collaboration between anthony braxton and wolf eyes, “black vomit.” would have been a trip to see that. from 2005. maybe you were there Dean!
	9:51pm Dean: I have the Black Vomit CD, but no, I wasn't there. I was there, however, for Fuck Shit Up, and many other shows.
	♥ 9:52pm TDK60: Interesting sounds. Thanks, Gary.
	9:54pm Listener Gregory: You know, after the first half hour I was thinking that this music isn’t that experimental. Well, you showed me!
	♥ 9:55pm Gary: Haha
	9:56pm tim abdellah: Cool trip tonite Gary! Catch y'all later
	♥ 9:57pm northguineahills: crap, it's 10, thanks Gary!
	♥ 9:57pm DL in LA: Thanks for another great ride Gary!
	♥ 9:57pm northguineahills: @zzz: I have black vomit. Talked to wolf eyes about after a show.
	🇰🇷 ♥ 9:57pm Zipperhead7: Thanks, Gary! Always interesting and illuminating
	9:58pm rw: Thank you Gary!!
	9:59pm Listener Gregory: Hmmm, I had black vomit but not on a record.
	♥ 9:59pm zzz: wolf eyes was one of the most intense shows i e seen , unforgettable and incredible . thanks Gary!
	9:59pm Listener Gregory: Great show, Gary. I really enjoyed this.
	9:59pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ~ TY Always DJ Gary ~
	♥ 10:00pm Gary: Night, everyone!
	🇰🇷 ♥ 10:00pm chresti: Thanks Gary!
	🇰🇷 ♥ 10:17pm WR: Thank you, Gary, a marvelous episode.
	9:18am Logical Da9ud: ↳ Revolution Rabbit Nov63 @8:42 haha it is yes

Bodega Pop with Gary Sullivan: Playlist from December 7, 2022

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December 7, 2022: THE ARAB AVANT-GARDE | 2020s
Pandemic-era experimental music from the Arabic-speaking world

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Artist	Track	Album	Year	Comments	Approx. start time
Music behind DJ: Bodega Pop	Intro "Intro" by "Bodega Pop"	Bodega Pop	2022		0:00:00 (Pop-up)
Nancy Mounir & Fatma Serry	Ana Bas Saktalak	Nozhet El Nofous	2022		0:04:30 (Pop-up)
200 Shams	Leela Fil-Disko "Leela Fil-Disko" by "200 Shams"	Leela Fil-Disko EP	2021		0:08:37 (Pop-up)
Raed Yassin	The Cyber Oracle "The Cyber Oracle" by "Raed Yassin"	Archeophony	2021		0:12:27 (Pop-up)
Cheba Wahida	Fel Nehar Akla Fe Lil Kbiha	Jrouli	2022		0:19:41 (Pop-up)
Music behind DJ: Hisham Atta'allah	___improvisation 07	___improvisations	2022		0:27:51 (Pop-up)
Fatima Al Qadiri	Medieval Femme "Medieval Femme" by "Fatima Al Qadiri"	Medieval Femme	2021		0:34:13 (Pop-up)
Fatima Al Qadiri	A Certain Concubine	Medieval Femme	2021		0:38:02 (Pop-up)
Fatima Al Qadiri	Sheba "Sheba" by "Fatima Al Qadiri"	Medieval Femme	2021		0:39:48 (Pop-up)
Fatima Al Qadiri	Vanity "Vanity" by "Fatima Al Qadiri"	Medieval Femme	2021		0:42:53 (Pop-up)
Fatima Al Qadiri	Stolen Kiss of a Succubus	Medieval Femme	2021		0:45:58 (Pop-up)
Fatima Al Qadiri	Golden "Golden" by "Fatima Al Qadiri"	Medieval Femme	2021		0:49:39 (Pop-up)
Fatima Al Qadiri	Qasmuna (Dreaming)	Medieval Femme	2021		0:51:43 (Pop-up)
Fatima Al Qadiri	Malaak "Malaak" by "Fatima Al Qadiri"	Medieval Femme	2021		0:54:53 (Pop-up)
Fatima Al Qadiri	Tasakuba "Tasakuba" by "Fatima Al Qadiri"	Medieval Femme	2021		0:57:49 (Pop-up)
Music behind DJ: Hisham Atta'allah	___improvisation 08	___improvisations	2021		1:01:41 (Pop-up)
Sharif Sehnaoui & Jawad Nawfal	Cut	Center	2021		1:03:33 (Pop-up)
Logical Da9ud	Arboretum 1862 مشتل 1862	Al-Azhar Garden Grove بستان حديقة الأزهر	2021		1:09:10 (Pop-up)
PRAED Orchestra!	Mirage 72 "Mirage 72" by "PRAED Orchestra!"	Live In Sharjah	2020		1:12:24 (Pop-up)
Fel Dera (في الدرى)	Life Secretions إفرازات حياتية	The Same Way على نفس النمط	2022		1:27:31 (Pop-up)
Music behind DJ: Hisham Atta'allah	___improvisation 03	___improvisations	2021		1:30:18 (Pop-up)
ABADIR	2030 "2030" by "ABADIR"	This Is Cairo Not the Screamers	2020		1:35:06 (Pop-up)
3Phaz	babababababawar "babababababawar" by "3Phaz"	This Is Cairo Not the Screamers	2020		1:39:45 (Pop-up)
Nadah El-Shazly	Sekket el Amwal "Sekket el Amwal" by "Nadah El-Shazly"	This Is Cairo Not the Screamers	2020		1:45:19 (Pop-up)
Youssef Abouzeid	drpapgad "drpapgad" by "Youssef Abouzeid"	This Is Cairo Not the Screamers	2020		1:51:46 (Pop-up)
Music behind DJ: Hisham Atta'allah	___improvisation 09	___improvisations	2021		1:58:42 (Pop-up)
QuasaR	Loading... "Loading..." by "QuasaR"	The BW Era	2023	Date is SIC
Karkhana	Sidi Mansour "Sidi Mansour" by "Karkhana"	Al Azraqayn	2021		2:12:34 (Pop-up)
Music behind DJ: Hisham Atta'allah	___improvisation 10	___improvisations	2021		2:32:33 (Pop-up)
PanSTARRS	Side A: Kan Kalb; Shaf Batee2; Mkhy7mar; Khlstmshkla	Batee2	2022		2:36:08 (Pop-up)
Music behind DJ: Catrina Peslaru	Hei La Bodega "Hei La Bodega" by "Catrina Peslaru"	Hei La Bodega - Carnaval!	2000		2:56:12 (Pop-up)

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Listener comments!
	🇰🇷 ♥ 6:57pm Listener Gregory: Looking forward to this show. Great theme.
	♥ 6:58pm Gary: Evening, Gregory! Hope it connects with you
	🇰🇷 ♥ 7:01pm chresti: Me too LG! Hi Gary bodega show!
	♥ 7:01pm Gary: The Chresti!
	🇰🇷 ♥ 7:03pm WR: Lay it on us, Gary.
	♥ 7:05pm Gary: Hello there, WR!
	7:15pm peter: Hello Gary & all!
	7:16pm Polyus: Hey there Gary, good to hear yez
	♥ 7:16pm Gary: Peter, good evening, and look, it's Polyus, too!
	♥ 7:18pm ironybread: Ah, bless these bleeps and bloops
	♥ 7:19pm Gary: Ironybread!
	♥ 7:20pm ironybread: Gary! Chresti! WR! Evvybuddy!
	7:21pm Listener Gregory: Liked that Cyber Oracle. It had a nice combination of the traditional (I guess) and contemporary.
	♥ 7:25pm TDK60: Ho Gary.
	♥ 7:26pm Gary: TDK60!
	7:26pm Earthenware: This track is soooooo great
	♥ 7:27pm Gary: Earthenware! We agree
	♥ 7:27pm melinda: hi friends
	♥ 7:27pm Gary: Melinda!
	♥ 7:28pm northguineahills: I wish that cheba wahida track wasn't as compressed, it was gorgeous.
	♥ 7:29pm northguineahills: most contemporary rai has autotune, but it works in their context...
	7:30pm Earthenware: Avant pop
	♥ 7:32pm TDK60: Gary, I like that you think a term like avant garde is elastic. Autotune-- depends on the specific track. I don't like it in a lot of pop. But, depends..
	♥ 7:35pm Gary: NGH!
	♥ 7:36pm Gary: NGH, it might have sounded more compressed because I ripped it from vinyl rather than playing FLACs
	7:36pm peter: I swear I didn’t coin “workstation pop” but I think last time I searched I couldn’t find its origin..
	7:37pm Listener Gregory: This Al Qadiri may exceed my reverb limit.
	7:41pm peter: Fatima is the best
	♥ 7:44pm Gary: Is it possible, peter, you used "workstation luk thung"? That's the phrase I remember, but I don't have the best memory
	♥ 7:46pm northguineahills: workstation pop (n.) music motifs descended from genres that were originally commercially oriented and to be received by a wide audience. This music is created on a home computer workstation. First documented by 'peter' ( www.wfmu.org... , 7/22/2022 ).
	🇰🇷 ♥ 7:47pm Listener Gregory: The Urban Dictionary definition is way too obscene to repeat here.
	♥ 7:48pm northguineahills: anything found in the urban dictionary is way to obscene to be repeated anywhere...(to the urban dictionary!)
	7:52pm rw: Hi! Wow! Nice.
	🇰🇷 ♥ 7:52pm Listener Gregory: I guess it's just me who has problems with all this echo. I spent enough time in huge churches as a child that I don't really want to repeat the sonic experience. And I think it's sometimes a kind of cheap way to try to generate profundity.
	♥ 7:55pm TDK60: Listener Gregory. I do like reverb/echo. But I could see tiring of it, if it gets too reverby all the time, like those surf bands in '62.
	♥ 7:55pm Gary: Gregory, I feel you -- there's a similar phenomenon in contemporary poetry with repetition
	♥ 7:56pm Gary: sustain / repetition connotes seriousness & depth, without actually providing it
	7:57pm rw: Ha! Was just trying to figure out how to say what TDK and Gary just said. I'm glad you guys let me hang out here.
	7:59pm Dean: Echoes are triggers? How does one live a life when one is so utterly sensitive to the noise of the world? Or am I not getting the sarcasm? I hope this is the case, because if it isn't then I will unload the manifold circumstances that cause me to curl into a babbling baby. The trauma I have suffered is limitless.
	♥ 7:59pm northguineahills: i find redundancy profound and cyclically deep ;p
	8:04pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Evening !
	♥ 8:05pm Gary: RevRab!
	🇰🇷 ♥ 8:07pm chresti: Backward announcing is logical.
	8:07pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: This Is Your Brain on Echo
	♥ 8:08pm northguineahills: wow, sheilab played Fatima Al Qadiri in april, 2021....
	♥ 8:09pm melinda: digging the sounds tonight
	🇰🇷 ♥ 8:09pm chresti: Ha RevRab
	♥ 8:09pm TDK60: Interesting how sounds, effects, timbres, can affect us in so many ways. Or preferences or not, for certain instruments.
	8:12pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: As the fellow in my Tar today said - 'Technique is just a way of arriving @ a Statement' ...but - does it Arrive ? - & what is the Statement ? For instance - of late I've been really irritated by repetitive machine Rhythms in Music.
	♥ 8:13pm TDK60: Or, how it can change too. Ex: I admit that, by 1980, I was just fried on wah-wahs. (I loved them in '68.) Hee.
	8:13pm Listener Gregory: Don’t know what that was, but Logical Da9ud also combined some interesting sounds.
	8:14pm Listener Gregory: @RevRab, agreed.
	8:14pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: I'm glued to my wah-wah - as my only pedal ! But I use as just a tone control &/or to control feedback often as not.
	🇰🇷 ♥ 8:19pm chresti: Beautifu! I shall go look at the moon now..
	8:22pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ...I'm goofing of course on the book 'This Is Your Brain on Music' - which ventures to barely begin to inquire into just what TDK60 speaks of @ 8:09. The Full ☽Moon is occulting (passing over) ♂︎Mars - which is interesting...
	♥ 8:22pm TDK60: Hi chresti \\// Can we get a Moon report later?
	8:35pm Listener Gregory: Turning my speakers all the way up! ALL!
	♥ 8:36pm Gary: haha
	8:42pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: داوود = 'Dawoud' (sp?) = David ?? (Of which I am one.)
	🇰🇷 ♥ 8:42pm chresti: Copy that TDK60, moon was full- positioned next to it at 8 o'clock, was a bright small red dot- rose @4:20 pst. \\//
	8:43pm Listener Gregory: My speakers are laughing at this. Is this your worst?
	♥ 8:44pm Gary: Haha, oh well
	🇰🇷 ♥ 8:46pm chresti: my earbuds are like bumble bees in my ears- I like it!
	♥ 8:48pm ironybread: Saw the moon just now, can confirm it's good shit
	♥ 8:50pm DL in LA: Hello Gary, sounding good! Hey I’ve always been curious, when you rip vinyl, do you try to digitally clean up the surface noise?
	8:52pm Listener Gregory: This is good. Also, I also have a moon even though it rained off and on all day. Good times!
	♥ 8:52pm Gary: DL! I do very minimal "click removal" and then go searching for specific clicks that I hear. Nothing too drastic. That said, tonight we've only heard one vinyl rip so far, the Cheba Wahida. Everything else has been FLAC. I've got two more vinyl rips coming up later, we'll see how they compare
	♥ 8:54pm Gary: NGH mentioned that the Cheba Wahida sounded "compressed" and I wonder if it does so because vinyl and how it would sound from FLACs downloaded from Bandcamp
	8:55pm tim abdellah: Hi Gary and Friends!
	8:55pm Gilly: Came here for “if you lose your horse” but this will do. Funky.
	♥ 8:56pm Gary: Tim! Gilly! Gilly, we've got another hour and five before Sam
	8:56pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Interesting indeed to hear such contemporary sounds in an 'Arabic voice' as it were. You never disappoint Gary !
	8:58pm Gilly: Sam is a long time pal I can’t wait for him to absolutely kill it tonight ! So are you tho!!!!
	9:03pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: It's - perhaps - like talking about Recorded Music in the same way one would Painting or Graphic Art. That was kind of George Martin's premise, for instance.
	♥ 9:03pm ironybread: ...yes, Portishead I think
	🇰🇷 ♥ 9:04pm Zipperhead7: Hi Gary and Bodegans! Just tuning in and yep, this is pretty outré. Hmmm . . .textures . . . would Barthes' "The Grain of the Voice" count?
	♥ 9:04pm ironybread: Track "Batucada" by Towa Tei was the first cut that made me think of sample resolution as an aesthetic shoice, because the root sample in the song is so rough it's almost 8-bit
	9:06pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ...& in the Analog vs. Digital consideration - the great Mastering Engineers very much contend they knew the limitations of the Dynamic Range they were working in - & in the better instances - used it Artfully. Into the Digital Era - & it may be we've been seduced by potential increased Dynamic Range without so much of that...
	♥ 9:07pm Gary: Zipperhead! Yes, I think so
	♥ 9:09pm northguineahills: @RevRabbit: yes, dawoud would be david. and boy, is there already a wfmu theme song for the likes of you!
	9:10pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ...like Beatles' Engineer Geoff Emerick spoke of a lady commenting that on the Remastered (if not Remixed?) Sgt. Pepper - she could finally tell one sound was a cowbell. The problem he said - they worked hard so you could not tell... Not sure how applicable that is to the Portishead situation or the general drift here...
	🇰🇷 ♥ 9:10pm Zipperhead7: A wiseass student of mine once wrote an essay on Barthes and titled it "Roland the Headless Semiologist"
	9:11pm Listener Gregory: Great comments on texture, Gary. It is definitely underrated. Some of my favorite rock albums are those that have a rich, grungy texture.
	9:13pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: I might posit TheWho's first album as an example. The CD is clearer - but ...but... Mono mixes are often punchier than Stereo too...
	♥ 9:14pm Gary: SPEAKING OF -- Tim gifted me some FLACs of the new Revolver stereo album and I loved them so much I went out and got the vinyl. Part of what I liked was that the tracks did NOT have the punchiness of the mono -- they were richer than I remembered them sounding as a kid
	♥ 9:15pm Gary: I was shocked to hear some cowbell in Revolver, speaking of
	🇰🇷 ♥ 9:17pm Zipperhead7: I always thought that when the big Phil Spector CD box set came out years ago,he purposely torpedoed the mix. The tracks are so dry they're arid, completely devoid of warmth. A "Back to Mono" button was included with the first pressings.
	♥ 9:17pm Ike: Meow!
	♥ 9:18pm Gary: Ike!
	9:19pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: A prominent impression went they just Remastered TheBeatles in 2009 was I had a lot of tambourine & the like a few inches from my face ! :D Yeah - DJ GeorgyGirl played new Revolver trax... My first impression was yeah Clarity ...tho 'Love You To' sounded less electric & more subdued. The contempo bias in favor of Drum & Bass end might make them Rawk more - but Revolver was (/is) specifically Druggy - it should hit you in a certain way. I commented about the MBV 'Loveless' album that it's like shooting up elektrik gittar. There's some comparison to Revolver in some way there ...Texture indeed.
	🇰🇷 ♥ 9:20pm doctorjazz: Hi met some friends for dinner, back at the ranch!
	♥ 9:20pm zzz: hey @Gary and all. quite the show theme. this track fits the bill. this reminds me of the derek bailey with jamaladeen tacuma and calvin weston release.gnarly!
	♥ 9:21pm Gary: Dr. Jazz and Zzz, welcome!
	🇰🇷 ♥ 9:21pm doctorjazz: Like the new Revolver, the outtakes are cool!
	🇰🇷 ♥ 9:21pm doctorjazz: (as usual, haven't had enough time to listen to it a lot)
	9:22pm tim abdellah: Glad you dug the Beatle FLACs!
	9:22pm Listener Gregory: OK, now we are getting down to business.
	9:23pm tim abdellah: This Karkhana track sounds nothing like the popular Tunisian song Sidi Mansour :)
	9:23pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Oh outtakes absolutely. But that almost underscores the thing about seduction ...whatever the intentions of TheBeatles - I will greedily be informed of everything that happened @ AbbeyRoad that they can reveal to me. I fear becoming a Tourist in my own Culture, so to speak ...yet I also make the argument AppleCorp. should start thinking in terms of History @ this juncture.
	♥ 9:24pm Gary: @Tim haha
	9:24pm tim abdellah: But their Bandcamp page says "Sidi Mansour... is a Tunisian folk theme by Cheikh Mohamed Boudaya"
	♥ 9:27pm zzz: looks like sam shalabi is on here on guitar/oud. cool! hearing him amways brings me back to my montreal days, local experimental guitar hero
	9:28pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ...almost Arabic FreeJazz ...always maintain that Free is actually more from Roots forms & in a sense more 'Traditional' anyhow...
	9:29pm tim abdellah: Ah... there's that Sidi Mansour theme!
	9:29pm tim abdellah: You could do an entire show based on versions of this tune!
	9:30pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ...like the Alap before the Raga gets down to business maybe...
	9:30pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: - as analogy - Raga is Indian of course...
	9:31pm tim abdellah: @revrab - yeah!
	9:32pm tim abdellah: I recently found out that Boney M based a track on the tune in 1977! en.wikipedia.org...
	♥ 9:33pm northguineahills: @zzz: bailey/tacuma/weston,. wait, wait, what!!!!!???? my ears need to hears....
	9:35pm Dean: @zzz: I saw Shalabi at Victo one year. Big fan of luteness.
	♥ 9:36pm northguineahills: also @zzz: I'm having a conversation about music days in montreal right now (well, the online communocation conversation kind)
	9:37pm Dean: Montreal is definitely a critical site, as is Guelph.
	♥ 9:38pm Gary: Tim perhaps I'll have to conscript you to help put together such a show!
	♥ 9:39pm DL in LA: FLAC sounded more pure, and the rip sounded more alive and visceral, but I liked both!
	9:39pm Dean: And... Milli Vanilli?!
	♥ 9:43pm zzz: @ngh : Mirakle put out on tzadik. it’s really good stuff www.discogs.com...
	9:43pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Milli Vanilli ...now everyone's a Star miming on TikTok...
	9:44pm tim abdellah: OMG Dean - my mind is now blown! I had no idea!
	♥ 9:44pm zzz: lived in montreal 6 nice years never made it to victo.
	9:46pm Dean: Victo was--probably still is--a well run festival, no chance of missing an act because you wanted to go to another, everybody was cool. And the music was exquisite.
	♥ 9:48pm Gary: Hey Kids! Stick around after this mess for Sam Segal's always-already exquisite If You Lose Your Horse! Tonight's episode, "Are You or Is Someone You Know a Horse?" wfmu.org...
	♥ 9:50pm zzz: closest i got to it is having a live CD from the festival of a collaboration between anthony braxton and wolf eyes, “black vomit.” would have been a trip to see that. from 2005. maybe you were there Dean!
	9:51pm Dean: I have the Black Vomit CD, but no, I wasn't there. I was there, however, for Fuck Shit Up, and many other shows.
	♥ 9:52pm TDK60: Interesting sounds. Thanks, Gary.
	9:54pm Listener Gregory: You know, after the first half hour I was thinking that this music isn’t that experimental. Well, you showed me!
	♥ 9:55pm Gary: Haha
	9:56pm tim abdellah: Cool trip tonite Gary! Catch y'all later
	♥ 9:57pm northguineahills: crap, it's 10, thanks Gary!
	♥ 9:57pm DL in LA: Thanks for another great ride Gary!
	♥ 9:57pm northguineahills: @zzz: I have black vomit. Talked to wolf eyes about after a show.
	🇰🇷 ♥ 9:57pm Zipperhead7: Thanks, Gary! Always interesting and illuminating
	9:58pm rw: Thank you Gary!!
	9:59pm Listener Gregory: Hmmm, I had black vomit but not on a record.
	♥ 9:59pm zzz: wolf eyes was one of the most intense shows i e seen , unforgettable and incredible . thanks Gary!
	9:59pm Listener Gregory: Great show, Gary. I really enjoyed this.
	9:59pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ~ TY Always DJ Gary ~
	♥ 10:00pm Gary: Night, everyone!
	🇰🇷 ♥ 10:00pm chresti: Thanks Gary!
	🇰🇷 ♥ 10:17pm WR: Thank you, Gary, a marvelous episode.
	9:18am Logical Da9ud: ↳ Revolution Rabbit Nov63 @8:42 haha it is yes

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