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July 19, 2021: Jon Fasman, author, "We See It All"
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Tonight: Jon Fasman, author, We See It All: Liberty and Justice in an Age of Perpetual Surveillance
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• @jonfasman (Twitter)
• We See It All: Liberty and Justice in an Age of Perpetual Surveillance (IndieBound)
• New York Times coverage of Pegasus, cyberespionage tool made by NSO Group, Israeli spyware company (July 18, 2021): "Activists say that without access to surveillance-free communications, journalists will no longer be able to contact sources without fear of exposing them to government retaliation. And rights campaigners will be unable to freely communicate with victims of state-led abuses. ... [A list was leaked of] more than 50,000 mobile numbers from more than 50 countries that it said appeared to be proposed surveillance targets for the company’s clients. ... the list [reportedly] contained the numbers of hundreds of journalists, media proprietors, government leaders, opposition politicians, political dissidents, academics and rights campaigners. The list was first obtained by Amnesty International, the human rights watchdog, and Forbidden Stories, a group that focuses on free speech."
• Congress Asks Experts for Guidance on Facial Recognition (July 14, 2021), on Robert Williams' testimony to the congressional hearing on facial recognition
• Federal agencies using facial recognition, as reported by the GAO
• Stores with facial recognition include Albertsons, Macy's, Ace Hardware, and Apple Stores - and possibly others, such as McDonald's, Best Buy, Starbucks, and Walgreens.
• Jack Paulson, past guest, on Clearview AI's partners
• Cameras and usage policies in Shenzhen, China
• EFF's Matthew Guariglia, June 17: "Here is [Amazon] Ring sending free cameras to the LAPD for use in an investigation involving a church - and making it a marketing opportunity asking if church members could be informed about the cameras."
• On ankle bracelets: A grandmother didn’t answer her phone during a class. She was sent back to prison. (Washington Post, June 26, 2021)
• Speaking of last week's show on the "fauxliage" of fake-tree cell towers... this comes from a Techtonic listener in Arizona:
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Listener comments!
David in London:
Robm:
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HyperDose:
common:
chresti:
PaulRobeson1920:
Webhamster Henry:
Bas NL:
Mark Hurst:
melinda:
Roland from Australia:
Bas NL:
PaulRobeson1920:
7 out of 8 people jailed for Drug Policy Violations are Black people.
The wealthy use illegal drugs with impunity.
The Weekend (the performer) is a symbol of our sick society…
Webhamster Henry:
Revolution Rabbit Nov63:
Mark Hurst:
Webhamster Henry:
Mark Hurst:
ShelbyG:
Greg from ZONE 5:
David in London:
PaulRobeson1920:
Bas NL:
Mark Hurst:
ShelbyG:
The Butterman:
ultradamno:
Bigfoot:
PaulRobeson1920:
Nixon era public policy has resulted in the massive police state today… i’m wondering, how would you define a police state?Anybody
Democracy was invented by a HIGHLY literate society… so what kind of society are we living in today….
Freedom of expression! thank goodness!!!!!
ShelbyG:
Mark Hurst:
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Take them bowling
Problem solved
Handy Haversack:
Police make the market that incentivises the development of far-over-reaching surveillance tech. Reforming the police has never, ever worked. Only a complete reevaluation of what crime is and how we can actually reach justice might effect change. As long as the structures of police depts. are allowed to persist, the problem does not go away.
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Bas NL:
Webhamster Henry:
Revolution Rabbit Nov63:
drew:
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That cat is way outta the bag by now
London ring
NYC
Etc
But UAE, Emirates, Israel China
Fuhgeddaboutit
drew:
ultradamno:
joe mulligan:
drew:
ShelbyG:
“Defund the Police” is so stigmatized. Just don’t rely on cops to handle the shit they aren’t trained to deal with. Pay to mental health counselors, drug counselors, etc.
Bigfoot:
Handy Haversack:
Public vs. private as it stands is the argument that will only ever benefit those who want to arrogate all power to themselves.
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Every year the local police collected every high school yearbook
And NYPD ain’t all that good at anything but they got that down
Don’t be paranoid
They got you already
Thing is
What do they care to use for what purpose?
Y’all gotta be hardcore messenger of change to get noticed
And those types die early
Jimmy Hendrix was murdered once he mentioned the Panthers
Mark Hurst:
DjLorraine:
PaulRobeson1920:
“ I can’t feel my face” song performed at Halftime of the Superbowl was one of the grossest things i’ve ever seen.
Old Dave:
Both sides seem to now recognize me and the family according to our previous encounters. This speeds up the process.
I am not hiding a crime, and would like to continue travelling freely after August 9th.
Maybe if someone pretending to be me tries to cross in September, their records will flag the hell out of his ass?
DjLorraine:
David in London:
PaulRobeson1920:
Privacy what is IT good for! Absolutly nothin!
Revolution Rabbit Nov63:
We need a Bill of Digital Rights - as we *already* live in Cyberland...
As for Police - all this A.I. will follow the pattern of exactly what happened in Militarizing the Police. As they say: You keep your Military & your Police *separate* - because one Fights Enemies - & the other Protects Citizens...
Mark Hurst:
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Can’t
Stop
Laughing
Y’all back trump ffs
David in London:
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Careful about your allies people
DjLorraine:
Handy Haversack:
Revolution Rabbit Nov63:
PaulRobeson1920:
Of the 2,000,000 souls in Jail’ in America right now. A FULL HALF have a definable and treatable mental illness!!! And of that population, 60% have used illegal drugs the previous month to incarceration!
Mental illness
PaulRobeson1920:
Webhamster Henry:
Bigfoot:
Revolution Rabbit Nov63:
Libertarianism too often & too much a way to sell the Far Right to people. Deregulate many things - often just means the Richest of the Rich get to do whatever they can afford & screw everybody & everything else.
We have Rights as Humans - not just the Computers & the Corporations.
Roland from Australia:
HyperDose:
Ken From Hyde Park:
chresti:
ultradamno:
Webhamster Henry:
Carmichael:
Bas NL:
melinda:
Revolution Rabbit Nov63:
Ken From Hyde Park:
Handy Haversack:
HyperDose:
Old Dave:
Yes, they see it all...
Handy Haversack:
Wormy:
JJ NY-SC:
PaulRobeson1920:
Well over 400,000 felons Arrested for Drug Policy violations in Florida cannot vote ever again!
Often what we value is not made explicit. Make your values explcit!
“the juridicial discourse brings to life that which is pronounces”
What is actionable to prevent facial recognition??? What could of been done to prevent the Smart Phone??
End the war…
ultradamno:
PaulRobeson1920:
Hey now
ultradamno:
Revolution Rabbit Nov63:
Revolution Rabbit Nov63:
David in London:
RevErie:
Handy Haversack:
ultradamno:
David in London:
Good night everyone.
ultradamno:
Revolution Rabbit Nov63:
PaulRobeson1920:
melinda:
ultradamno:
Bas NL:
Revolution Rabbit Nov63:
Stillwell Coney Islander:
PaulRobeson1920:
ultradamno:
Webhamster Henry:
ARB:
PaulRobeson1920:
PaulRobeson1920:
ARB:
ultradamno:
Ken From Hyde Park:
ARB:
Mark Hurst: